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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2017 18:23:14 GMT
Today has been a bad day... AS much as I find my employer an intolerable twat... today, he got in first, and gave me 3 months notice - suggesting that next Week when I have my first operation, I count t as gardening leave rather than feck about with sick pay and dont come back... he'll pay me the legal minimum redundcancy at the end of it... which is capped at 489 a week ergo - he's a twat. I would have worked for him for 15 years in Oct... hence why he's done it now so I only get 14 years worth. ON the plus side, ONCE I've got the nearly 4 months pay, I WILL tell him exactly what I think in glorious technicolour ... Aunt! Contributions to the "Save the Ginger Fund" welcome by paypal, cheques or cash... pm for details What is the reason he has given? Making somebody redundant has to be done by following the correct procedure otherwise the dismissal could be found to be unfair. As our resident Zombie friend has pointed out you can't just make somebody redundant and replace them with somebody else doing the same job. Effectively it's the role that is redundant and not the person. If the role isn't actually redundant then strictly you shouldn't have been dismissed. Edit the gov.uk site is a good source of basic factual info. www.gov.uk/redundant-your-rights/overview
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Post by naughtyfox on Jun 21, 2017 18:47:31 GMT
Thank goodness mjg has come to this fiasco - and me too!
Alarm bells are ringing! If you are on sick leave then so you are - you are NOT on 'gardening leave' or holiday or any other kind of 'leave'.
What is the reason given for telling you to go? It must be valid and legal - otherwise I hear the two words Employment Tribunal.
Act quickly. Look it all up on the Internet. Unless you fancy a change in life and this provides an easy opt out for you.
If he gives your job to his nephew then you take him to court, I think.
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Post by patty on Jun 21, 2017 18:59:14 GMT
Trouble with Employment Tribunals is u have to put £1000 up front..I did some work helping people ..but then it changed and now i believe its mediation.... Get the solid facts together and seek advice ..think ACAS may be able to help but they were bit employer slanted...I haven't been helping people for nearly 3 years now and rules change...but might be worth giving them a ring. There are set rules...cannot just dismiss or make redundant.
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Post by bettina on Jun 21, 2017 19:53:21 GMT
And...
make sure you get everything in writing from him, signed & witnesed.
Why your position has been made redundant, how & who will be completing the work that was normally assigned to you and finally he MUST give you proper notice, if that notice period covers the first of your operations, I "think" it is against the labour law to terminate an employee's employment whilst they are on sick leave. You may find that you are entitled to your sick pay AND your notice pay.
As others have said, seek advice from someone who is up to speed on the labour law. I have been out of the work force for the better part of 4 years now and the company I worked for was unionized so some of the laws/rules we had to abide by were even stricter than the labour laws themselves.
I really do hope it all works out for you and the operations are quick and pain free.
Good Luck
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2017 20:35:19 GMT
Truly sorry to hear your problems.
I cannot help in anyway, as my only suggestions would involve petrol, a scrap of rag and an empty milk bottle.
But I believe the Citizens Advice Bureau would be a good start point.
Hope you can get through this bad time and arrive where you hoped to be.
Rog
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Post by quaysider on Jun 21, 2017 21:07:08 GMT
thanks for the support good people... I'm a fair way through my gin now and feeling quite filo philo philospositicaal about it all...
I was always GOING to resign when we had a couple of years mortgge in the bank... it's just a bit (12 months) sooner than we planned) - at least this way I can get a few months pay.
AS for being given notice whilst off sick - today is the 1st day of my notice (I think) and I have my 1st operation next Thursday....
It's pants but we'll manage. I think I may delay the 2nd operation and take whatever work I can find to try and get the plan back on schedule - if the surgeon advises against that, then I'll take each day as it comes.
WHEN I'm sober, I'll look into whether I can claim job seekers and housing benefit (we've rented the house out so on paper, we''ll need to rent "somewhere")...
tbh, it's Gav I feel for most - he's 55.... and was only made redudnant from his last long term job 13 months ago and is due to nothing from our place... I'm only 45 and whilst temporarily (hoppefully) disabaled, will/can/are prepared to do anything to pay our way - as I have been/done for the last 27 years come to think of it lol.
hey ho.
IF I were so inclined, I could sink the whole empire .... but I'm not... life is too short. I will TRY and walk away - head held high and embrace the change in circumstances x
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jun 21, 2017 21:13:32 GMT
Citizen's Advice is definitely your first port of call. To be honest though, I doubt you'd get Housing Benefit if you own a house which you rent out. But as you say, you'll manage. Compared to being ginger, this is the most minor of problems.
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Post by quaysider on Jun 21, 2017 21:18:44 GMT
Citizen's Advice is definitely your first port of call. To be honest though, I doubt you'd get Housing Benefit if you own a house which you rent out. But as you say, you'll manage. Compared to being ginger, this is the most minor of problems. you "aunt" lol .....
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jun 21, 2017 21:26:14 GMT
You sound like a really nice tolerant bloke if you are going to call him an "Aunt"
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Post by patty on Jun 22, 2017 4:50:16 GMT
What a positive mind set.. could it be aided and abetted by gin n tiny tonic?.....even so with those thoughts you'll get there..one note caution with the NHS as it is I would be wary of delaying any planned surgery...I waited 2 years for hospital apt for known GI problem..the move from England to Wales did not progress seamlessly on the health front...now Im on the waiting list again for yet another endoscopy...Im on another waiting list for eye check at hospital...thats 6 months overdue..its grim getting into the system.
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Post by Saltysplash on Jun 22, 2017 6:18:30 GMT
torch your desk, torch your office, no, torch the building, torch his car, torch his garage, torch his house, torch his favourite restaurant, torch his budgie, torch his goldfish, torch him, torch the ground in which they bury him. Alternatively, look forward to what the future has in store...all the best
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Post by patty on Jun 22, 2017 7:09:17 GMT
torch your desk, torch your office, no, torch the building, torch his car, torch his garage, torch his house, torch his favourite restaurant, torch his budgie, torch his goldfish, torch him, torch the ground in which they bury him. Alternatively, look forward to what the future has in store...all the best I think I'd ignore that top paragraph and go for the last line option....
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Post by naughtyfox on Jun 22, 2017 7:56:52 GMT
Let us know if you'd like another bottle of gin in around 6 weeks' time, as we shall be passing Wakefield then. Gearbox and engine oil changed last night and now to have a 'house meeting' as to what to do next. Drizzling in Wigan. Launderette would be handy.
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Post by bargemast on Jun 22, 2017 8:16:20 GMT
Today has been a bad day... AS much as I find my employer an intolerable twat... today, he got in first, and gave me 3 months notice - suggesting that next Week when I have my first operation, I count t as gardening leave rather than feck about with sick pay and dont come back... he'll pay me the legal minimum redundcancy at the end of it... which is capped at 489 a week ergo - he's a twat. I would have worked for him for 15 years in Oct... hence why he's done it now so I only get 14 years worth. ON the plus side, ONCE I've got the nearly 4 months pay, I WILL tell him exactly what I think in glorious technicolour ... Aunt! Contributions to the "Save the Ginger Fund" welcome by paypal, cheques or cash... pm for details I do feel sorry for you, but on the other hand, as been said by a few others already, this may be the opportunity to find a better job working for an employer that's not an intolerable twat (who wants to work for someone like that anyway ?)
The £ 489 a week will surely be a huge reduction in your income, but is still only a bit less than what I get per month.
You're still fairly Young, so there will be plenty of new possiblities on your path, you'll have to stay (if you were) optimist.
Your bottle isn't going to help you, although if you like the stuff a glass, or maybe even 2 won't do you much harm.
Good luck for the future,
Peter.
p.s. I'msad to say that I'm not contributing to your Fund, as I'm short of money myself already.
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Post by quaysider on Jun 22, 2017 14:49:28 GMT
Cheers Peter, The "fund" is only a joke... unless there's a rich sugar daddy out there who'd like to try a ginger model I've done my sums a few times and we'll be ok. Once I've had my first operation next week, I'll begin making the proper narrowboatellis.com website - I registered the domain years ago and put a bit of holding blah blah online... it's time to give it a structure and layout a planned cruising itinerary for 2018 and hopefully get it showing up in hotel narrowboat searches. I bought Gav lunch today AND we had more than an hour... what they gonna do, Sack us? lol
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