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Post by Telemachus on Jun 28, 2017 9:17:36 GMT
The first narrowboat was pretty reckless and stupid. All that thrashing of propellers and high speed manoeuvring next to people in the water - lucky they didn't kill someone. Nobody was in serious danger - just a short swim to the slipway and/or plenty of stuff to hold on to as the sunken boat seemed to be sitting on the bottom. Their greatest risk was the other boats. Just shows how incompetent and thoughtless some people are when there is an emergency. But nobody got injured and they did help to a degree. It's better to try to help someone than be an arrogant prick.. Nobody got significant injured, I didn't say they did, I was talking about risk and hazards created unnecessarily. It is not better to help someone if you make the situation worse. As for being an arrogant prick, I'd say that someone who resorts to personally insulting someone just because they have a different opinion, is just that.
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Post by Telemachus on Jun 28, 2017 9:21:05 GMT
But nobody got injured and they did help to a degree. It's better to try to help someone than be an arrogant prick.. nick wouldn't know. None of us knows. We are presuming that "nobody got injured" but there will have at the very least been some minor scrapery of skin etc. As to helping other people, I spend a lot of time doing that as you would realise if you weren't so preoccupied with being antagonistic, belligerent and so full of hate and spite.
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Post by kris on Jun 28, 2017 9:29:15 GMT
None of us knows. We are presuming that "nobody got injured" but there will have at the very least been some minor scrapery of skin etc. As to helping other people, I spend a lot of time doing that as you would realise if you weren't so preoccupied with being antagonistic, belligerent and so full of hate and spite. i was just implying your an arrogant prick.
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Post by bargemast on Jun 28, 2017 10:02:59 GMT
Instead of insulting, which doesn't do good to anyone, ignoring would be far better.
This is only my personal opinion.
Peter.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 10:17:33 GMT
But nobody got injured and they did help to a degree. It's better to try to help someone than be an arrogant prick.. Nobody got significant injured, I didn't say they did, I was talking about risk and hazards created unnecessarily. It is not better to help someone if you make the situation worse. As for being an arrogant prick, I'd say that someone who resorts to personally insulting someone just because they have a different opinion, is just that. Well at least we know who would just stand around and watch analysing everyone else's practical attempts to help.
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Post by lollygagger on Jun 28, 2017 10:21:12 GMT
Great stuff. I particularly like the way the great british public muddle about chucking rings at the people in the water and the cops who take 5 minutes to arrive, do nothing useful and even stop the public from helping! Someone should have pushed the "can you get the other side of the ropes please" bloke in!
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Post by Telemachus on Jun 28, 2017 10:28:43 GMT
Nobody got significant injured, I didn't say they did, I was talking about risk and hazards created unnecessarily. It is not better to help someone if you make the situation worse. As for being an arrogant prick, I'd say that someone who resorts to personally insulting someone just because they have a different opinion, is just that. Well at least we know who would just stand around and watch analysing everyone else's practical attempts to help. Who would that be? Apart from the guy taking the video of course. Personally I would throw life rings and ropes into the water. I might take the boat into the vicinity but I would avoid doing it quickly since no-one was actually in serious difficulties. I would avoid getting the 20 tonne boat broadside on to survivors, keep the stern well away, and I would avoid reversing at high speed and then having to use forward with lots revs thus pushing other boats who are already in position to help, out of position. There can be a desire to "do something" in such circumstances - sometimes purely for personal glory - but the helpful person will do that in a measured and considered way, not a reckless way.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 10:33:37 GMT
Well at least we know who would just stand around and watch analysing everyone else's practical attempts to help. Who would that be? Apart from the guy taking the video of course. Personally I would throw life rings and ropes into the water. I might take the boat into the vicinity but I would avoid doing it quickly since no-one was actually in serious difficulties. I would avoid getting the 20 tonne boat broadside on to survivors, keep the stern well away, and I would avoid reversing at high speed and then having to use forward with lots revs thus pushing other boats who are already in position to help, out of position. There can be a desire to "do something" in such circumstances - sometimes purely for personal glory - but the helpful person will do that in a measured and considered way, not a reckless way. I didn't see anything reckless in that video, although I would admit that narrowboats are not the ideal rescue vessel and it's certainly not a great idea to have your prop spinning near people in the water. It's more the assumption that they were reckless which annoyed me really Nick. You always seem to think you know better than everyone else. Seeing as we can all be like that at times I'll let you off and say sorry.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 10:39:11 GMT
Who would that be? Apart from the guy taking the video of course. Personally I would throw life rings and ropes into the water. I might take the boat into the vicinity but I would avoid doing it quickly since no-one was actually in serious difficulties. I would avoid getting the 20 tonne boat broadside on to survivors, keep the stern well away, and I would avoid reversing at high speed and then having to use forward with lots revs thus pushing other boats who are already in position to help, out of position. There can be a desire to "do something" in such circumstances - sometimes purely for personal glory - but the helpful person will do that in a measured and considered way, not a reckless way. I didn't see anything reckless in that video, although I would admit that narrowboats are not the ideal rescue vessel and it's certainly not a great idea to have your prop spinning near people in the water. It's more the assumption that they were reckless which annoyed me really Nick. You always seem to think you know better than everyone else. Seeing as we can all be like that at times I'll let you off and say sorry. Nick always has plenty to say, much of which has little or no value, and simply seeks to goad for attention seeking. Although it's difficult (and I should practice as well as preach), the best answer to his stupidity is to ignore.
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Post by kris on Jun 28, 2017 10:42:32 GMT
Nickolarse always thinks he knows better than anyone else. He thinks it's because he is superior to the rest of us.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 12:11:36 GMT
Its all a bit old it happened in 2013! Not even new
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 12:18:59 GMT
Its all a bit old it happened in 2013! Not even new Oh, is that a bad year for you or summat?
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Post by naughtyfox on Jun 28, 2017 12:26:06 GMT
Hardly surprising non-action from Murkyside Police, the force that looks on as night-club bouncers assist in stealing boats.
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Post by naughtyfox on Jun 28, 2017 12:29:10 GMT
Nick used to turn the helicopter rotor blades off in case someone got hurt.
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Post by naughtyfox on Jun 28, 2017 12:31:57 GMT
Its all a bit old it happened in 2013! Not even new Yeah, I looked in today's papers and saw nuffin' - what's Bargemast doing here, eh?
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