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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2016 4:34:31 GMT
To tell you the truth I haven't taken much notice of what Boris has been saying. Does anyone? He's more an action than a words man. Jim Sillars? Now there's a blast from the past. I didn't even know he was still alive. Edited to say that I appear to be putting words in your mouth. Sorry about that. I was attempting to quote your relevant post. Read more: thunderboat.boards.net/thread/239/brexit-bit#ixzz49iGxGGSrIf you google SNP members for Brexit,you should pick up a good article from the Independent |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2016 4:36:50 GMT
No, I just don't think pensioners should get to vote on anything. Obviously not running Thunderboat to embellish a CV. DHUTCH,take note.  |
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Post by naughtyfox on May 26, 2016 6:54:02 GMT
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Post by macwolfelee on May 26, 2016 8:00:20 GMT
If you google SNP members for Brexit,you should pick up a good article from the Independent So he is still alive! I agree with him that the official SNP line is hopelessly inconsistent However the various reports of his opinions all date from before the Scottish elections, so it's all pretty irrelevant now. |
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Post by peterboat on May 26, 2016 10:06:57 GMT
Matt a car dealer friend of mine has just astonished me he was firmly in now because of all the negative and so called reports from the government he has changed to out! project fear is going wrong for them. He feels they are treating us like fools all these reports just coming out now saying the same mmmmm.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2016 10:44:00 GMT
Matt a car dealer friend of mine has just astonished me he was firmly in now because of all the negative and so called reports from the government he has changed to out! project fear is going wrong for them. He feels they are treating us like fools all these reports just coming out now saying the same mmmmm. Those manipulating the government and media are treating us as fools. Our vote might be the last chance we have to show we're not before power moves further up the tree. |
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Post by JohnV on May 26, 2016 11:57:22 GMT
I tend to the "out" vote but not firmly enough that a good argument backed up by genuine facts couldn't change my mind.
So far however I have not heard one argument from the "in's" that stands up to close inspection.
The big frightener that they have been using, of how hard it will be if we leave, assumes that there will be no action taken by the UK government, which is frankly ridiculous.
I firmly believe that very tough economic times are coming anyway, in the EU or out, so I don't think that is a valid argument anyway.
I do however believe that the British economy has a better chance of weathering the storm if it maintains it's own control, rather than depending on the (lack of ?) action of a bloated monolithic entity
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Post by JohnV on May 26, 2016 12:08:56 GMT
Should the over 60's even get a vote? They won't be the ones living with the consequences. Oddly I was discussing the EU in the pub last night with a gathering of mates, most of us retired and the others close to. We were discussing the apparent difference in attitudes in/out between the young and the ............ more mature. (in our gathering a straw pole gave 6 outs to 1 in) all of us knew of young people who were going to be voting "in". Rightly or wrongly we wondered if "scare tactics" work better on people who have no memories or experience of a Britain outside the EU. (Incidentally 60 is not old. When an aunt of mine had her house compulsorily purchased during the massive regeneration in Tyneside, she was rehomed (at 65) in a sheltered accomodation flat. ........... 42 years later mobility problems meant she had to go into a home (which she hated as she didn't have her own kitchen) she finally died at 109, Tynesides oldest resident) |
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Post by peterboat on May 26, 2016 13:05:20 GMT
Should the over 60's even get a vote? They won't be the ones living with the consequences. Oddly I was discussing the EU in the pub last night with a gathering of mates, most of us retired and the others close to. We were discussing the apparent difference in attitudes in/out between the young and the ............ more mature. (in our gathering a straw pole gave 6 outs to 1 in) all of us knew of young people who were going to be voting "in". Rightly or wrongly we wondered if "scare tactics" work better on people who have no memories or experience of a Britain outside the EU. (Incidentally 60 is not old. When an aunt of mine had her house compulsorily purchased during the massive regeneration in Tyneside, she was rehomed (at 65) in a sheltered accomodation flat. ........... 42 years later mobility problems meant she had to go into a home (which she hated as she didn't have her own kitchen) she finally died at 109, Tynesides oldest resident) My ex wife was from Tyneside her granny was in Achor homes until she died lovely place to spend your old age self contained flat but friends close by |
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Post by naughtyfox on May 26, 2016 14:45:20 GMT
Should the over 60's even get a vote? They won't be the ones living with the consequences. (Incidentally 60 is not old. Says those over 60! Over 50, you're living on 'borrowed time'! The over 60s should all have their driving licences withdrawn, they are a menace to society! |
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Post by Mr Stabby on May 26, 2016 15:06:26 GMT
(Incidentally 60 is not old. Says those over 60! Over 50, you're living on 'borrowed time'! The over 60s should all have their driving licences withdrawn, they are a menace to society! Well, in fact it's worse than that. "Life begins at 40 but death begins at 30" as they say.  |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2016 15:20:47 GMT
If you google SNP members for Brexit,you should pick up a good article from the Independent So he is still alive! I agree with him that the official SNP line is hopelessly inconsistent However the various reports of his opinions all date from before the Scottish elections, so it's all pretty irrelevant now. I only quote his name to draw attention to the fact that there is some infighting over the SNP position on Europe. That still remains the position before and after the Eections. Its a strange position that a Nationalist Administration can't get a mandate for separation,can you think of any comparable situation? |
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Post by sabcat on May 26, 2016 19:56:02 GMT
Latest poll for the Telegraph is not putting Remain ahead amongst the over 60s which is a shitter. Still, turn up, vote and see how it lands. No, it's young people who will win it for the "remain" campaign. They'll never have a decent paying job, they'll never be able to buy a house but they'll vote to remain because Brexit is "Waycist, innit". No. The young won't win it for Remain because most of them won't vote either way. Turnout is likely to be piss poor, old people vote. They'll decide this. |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2016 19:59:37 GMT
Interesting you reckon turnout will be piss poor,that throws up a lot of possibilities if it proves to be the case.
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Post by smileypete on May 26, 2016 20:01:19 GMT
Perhaps pensioners should be encouraged to join the Religion of Peace: View Attachment Less of the tasteless pics please foxy... |
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