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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2017 9:19:01 GMT
I thought I'd have a go at refilling a 4.5kg cylinder after being donated a full 15kg cylinder Thank heavens for Irish online retailers π As the butane is stored as a liquid the bulk cylinder needs inverting so it fills the receiver with liquid butane. Not super quick but it works a treat. The cylinder empty was 6.38kg, meaning a full cylinder should weigh 10.88kg ππ» Nobody was killed or blewed up during this operation as I have a modicum of common sense π I dare you to post that on a caravanning forum, they would tear you apart.....eat your innards and spit them out out...... It amazes me how much angst and anger doing this causes some people. It's not just caravaners, plenty of boaters are a bit twitchy about it too. I can safely say sharing the road with the huge numbers of Muppets that drive is more risky than decanting some butane from one cylinder to another. Safest thing though, if anyone is not sure they can do it safely then don't do it at all.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2017 9:23:35 GMT
I know where your coming From but I'm seeing more and more campers talking about a device where you can fill them up from the lpg pump at a garage. Yes its called Safefill from memory. And some get Β very agitated about that, i reckon some would be really disbelieving of Gaza's method.... Those safefill cylinder are eye wateringly expensive. www.safefill.co.uk/Pretty useless on a boat if you don't have a car or a fuel station with autogas close by as well. Calor have the waterways retail network pretty well sewn up, if we need a refill when away from home I swallow the cost, if I can wait and fill up at home then that's the way I shall do it.
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Post by kris on Sept 11, 2017 9:29:07 GMT
I thought I'd have a go at refilling a 4.5kg cylinder after being donated a full 15kg cylinder Thank heavens for Irish online retailers π As the butane is stored as a liquid the bulk cylinder needs inverting so it fills the receiver with liquid butane. Not super quick but it works a treat. The cylinder empty was 6.38kg, meaning a full cylinder should weigh 10.88kg ππ» Nobody was killed or blewed up during this operation as I have a modicum of common sense π I dare you to post that on a caravanning forum, they would tear you apart.....eat your innards and spit them out out...... Please Martin who are you trying to frighten
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Post by thebfg on Sept 11, 2017 9:36:29 GMT
you can get an adapter so you can fill any gas bottle up at the garage.
some times they get a bit funny about it and your can get an adapter on a pipe so it looks like your filling your car up.
that's a good point about garages near the waterways but leisure boaters would be ok.
apparently there can be risks and I have not read what they are.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2017 9:53:43 GMT
you can get an adapter so you can fill any gas bottle up at the garage. some times they get a bit funny about it and your can get an adapter on a pipe so it looks like your filling your car up. that's a good point about garages near the waterways but leisure boaters would be ok. apparently there can be risks and I have not read what they are. I think it's worse for a leisure boater, we were away for two weeks with no access to a car, the nearest autogas stockist to us while we were moored up in Ely was a 2.3 mile walk away, much easier to get a replacement Calor from Bridge boatyard than traipse about town!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2017 10:18:04 GMT
I was given a safefill gas bottle by a neighbour. Looked well dodgy so I sold it on fleabay with a "_looks well dodgy_" caveat.
One thing I like about calor is that you don't always have the same bottle. I'dbe worried that reusing a bottle again and again with no regular inspection regime could be dodgy. No idea what calor do but I'm guessing their bottles go through some sort of test at least occasionally.
I'm a domestic user of calor gas including all the hot water (Morco instant rather than stored water) for a family of 4. And cooking. Well to be fair I don't wash much.. but anyway.
13kg Β£28 approx 21 days. Not too bad really. I did wonder about the next bottle size as my bottle is not in a locker but they are very heavy.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2017 10:18:56 GMT
I dare you to post that on a caravanning forum, they would tear you apart.....eat your innards and spit them out out...... Please Martin who are you trying to frighten nobody, I was just mentioning how some people view the practice of 're filling lpg cylinders.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2017 10:20:28 GMT
Its also illegal to put tap water in a Volvic bottle.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2017 10:23:54 GMT
I was given a safefill gas bottle by a neighbour. Looked well dodgy so I sold it on fleabay with a "_looks well dodgy_" caveat. One thing I like about calor is that you don't always have the same bottle. I'dbe worried that reusing a bottle again and again with no regular inspection regime could be dodgy. No idea what calor do but I'm guessing their bottles go through some sort of test at least occasionally. I'm a domestic user of calor gas including all the hot water (Morco instant rather than stored water) for a family of 4. And cooking. Well to be fair I don't wash much.. but anyway. 13kg Β£28 approx 21 days. Not too bad really. I did wonder about the next bottle size as my bottle is not in a locker but they are very heavy. We won't always have the same cylinders, there will be times I run out when away so no problem getting an exchange. Don't get a campingaz cylinder if you are worried about the condition of the cylinder, some of the 907's in circulation look horrendous!
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Post by thebfg on Sept 11, 2017 10:23:57 GMT
Gazza, but you could top it up before you go at a considerable saving. If you run out you can still exchange it as normal and as a result will remove magnet man's worrys as you will have a different bottle to fill up next time.
I do not do it. as my 4.5 kg bottle for camping has lasted about 4 years and is still going.
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Post by thebfg on Sept 11, 2017 10:25:21 GMT
Its also illegal to put tap water in a Volvic bottle. As far as I know it's not illegal to refill calor gas bottles either.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2017 10:28:32 GMT
Gazza, but you could top it up before you go at a considerable saving. If you run out you can still exchange it as normal and as a result will remove magnet man's worrys as you will have a different bottle to fill up next time. I do not do it. as my 4.5 kg bottle for camping has lasted about 4 years and is still going. Yup, that's the plan. We had to get a campingaz 907 last year as there was a nationwide shortage of 4.5kg butane and 3.9kg propane. I've a neat little adaptor that goes from the 907 screw top to 4.5kg nut. I didn't get hold of the 15kg bottle till May of this year so had no real incentive to explore decanting from one cylinder to another.
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Post by thebfg on Sept 11, 2017 10:31:19 GMT
Gazza, but you could top it up before you go at a considerable saving. If you run out you can still exchange it as normal and as a result will remove magnet man's worrys as you will have a different bottle to fill up next time. I do not do it. as my 4.5 kg bottle for camping has lasted about 4 years and is still going. Yup, that's the plan. We had to get a campingaz 907 last year as there was a nationwide shortage of 4.5kg butane and 3.9kg propane. I've a neat little adaptor that goes from the 907 screw top to 4.5kg nut. I didn't get hold of the 15kg bottle till May of this year so had no real incentive to explore decanting from one cylinder to another. I can get any calor gas bottle. I've generally just been given them too, which was a bonus but that contact has gone now. however I can get hold of them still.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2017 10:57:58 GMT
I want to find a gas bottle with an inside diameter of around 215-220mm to cut into rings to make deep porthole spigots with.
Are there any bottles that size with a sensible wall thickness? 2.5mm+ would be best. I'm not going to weld them but they need to be fairly durable.
I basically need 2 pieces of tube 215mm ID and about 200mm long so that the portholes (below gunwhale portholes on my barge) sit inside the internal lining and the piece of tube extends the porthole spigot to thw outside of the hull.
I reckon if I can find a gas bottle its going to be easier than looking for this size tube.
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Post by thebfg on Sept 11, 2017 11:00:50 GMT
I want to find a gas bottle with an inside diameter of around 215-220mm to cut into rings to make deep porthole spigots with. Are there any bottles that size with a sensible wall thickness? 2.5mm+ would be best. I'm not going to weld them but they need to be fairly durable. O basically need 2 pieces of tube 215mm ID and about 200mm long so that the portholes (below gunwhale portholes on my barge) sit inside the internal lining and the piece of tube extends the porthole spigot to thw outside of the hull. A 4.5kg is about 240mm diameter.
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