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Post by kris on Nov 12, 2017 13:16:31 GMT
Did you get it afloat again. yes sorry Ill tell you the end of the tale. The friend I was with went to get his boat, after at least two hrs of trying to get off without. But even with his boat, it wouldn't come off, so we had to spend the night there. In the morning we decided to have ago at winching it off using my anchor chain and winch. We decided we best ring Crt to tell them what was happening, as we would have a chain all the way across the navigation causing an obstruction. I rang the switch board and the woman on the other end told me to ring RCR. I pointed out she had misunderstood what I had rung for, that I was ringing to tell her that there was an obstruction.(my chain across the cut.) That maybe she could put someone on the phone who knew what they are talking about. This got the waterways manager on the phone, I told him the situation, he then sent a workboat out. Which after failing to tow me off, had to resort to pushing me off the concrete block.
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Post by kris on Nov 12, 2017 13:19:45 GMT
just to prove it can happen to anyone. Here's a picture of my boat stuck on a concrete block, just below heck railway bridge on the Aire and Calder. The photo doesn't really show it very well, basically the boat about 12ft from the stern and about 7ftfrom the side of the boat is sat on a concrte block so that its pivoting. The concrete block is sat about 10-12ft into the channel, it's left over from a nasty repair that Bw/crt did to the pilling on this stretch. They are aware that there are underwater obstacles on this stretch if you look in the back ground of the photo, you can see two yello lollipops these are to mark where other boats have run aground on concrete blocks. Obviously they need to put more yellow lolly pops in. That's not much fun Kris, I hope that the concrete block didn't do any damage to the bottom of your boat. One thing is sure, I won't make the bottom any better, if there's damage, can you claim anything from C&RT for not having put markers in the canal to indicate these destructive obstructions ? I always worry about running aground, is has happened too much in the past on the badly maintained smaller commercial canals in France. Nowadays I'm better prepare and always have a bucket full of water on board, so if I run aground now, I empty the bucket in the canal, and I'm on my way again Good luck, Peter Enregistrerif only I had know about carrying an extra bucket of water it would have been alright. As for damage to the bottom of the boat, yes it probably has damaged it which is a worry on an old boat, but I doubt I can claim compensation.
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Post by JohnV on Nov 12, 2017 13:19:48 GMT
Glad you got off ok Kris, even if it was after a while.
It is bloody annoying when you get through to a switchboard and they don't know enough about their own service/company to talk sensibly about it.
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Post by bargemast on Nov 12, 2017 13:20:51 GMT
Glad to read that you're afloat again.
Peter
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Post by kris on Nov 12, 2017 13:25:03 GMT
That's not much fun Kris, I hope that the concrete block didn't do any damage to the bottom of your boat. One thing is sure, I won't make the bottom any better, if there's damage, can you claim anything from C&RT for not having put markers in the canal to indicate these destructive obstructions ? I always worry about running aground, is has happened too much in the past on the badly maintained smaller commercial canals in France. Nowadays I'm better prepare and always have a bucket full of water on board, so if I run aground now, I empty the bucket in the canal, and I'm on my way again Good luck, Peter Enregistrerif only I had known about carrying an extra bucket of water it would have been alright. As for damage to the bottom of the boat, yes it probably has damaged it which is a worry on an old boat, but I doubt I can claim compensation.
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Post by aquarat on Nov 12, 2017 13:27:22 GMT
Funny, well not so funny is exactly the same happened to a mate yesterday by Rugeley aqueduct, br68? Had to be yanked off as well. We clipped it on the way through but managed to slide off it. CRT informed and said they were sorting but going up tomorrow so we shall see. Glad you off kris
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Post by kris on Nov 12, 2017 13:32:43 GMT
Glad you got off ok Kris, even if it was after a while. It is bloody annoying when you get through to a switchboard and they don't know enough about their own service/company to talk sensibly about it. yes it's quite hilarious really, I can imagine ringing RcR waiting for two days then them turning up without adequate tools and saying they can't do anything. They couldn't evem manage to get mr stabbys mattress off. Crt are aware of the obstacles they have left in the cut on that stretch, apparently quite a few boats have had issues(hence the yellow lolly pops) so it's up to them as the navigation authority to fix it really. It's going to be fun if the commercial traffic returns as it is planed to do.
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Post by bargemast on Nov 12, 2017 13:33:34 GMT
if only I had known about carrying an extra bucket of water it would have been alright. As for damage to the bottom of the boat, yes it probably has damaged it which is a worry on an old boat, but I doubt I can claim compensation. These practical tricks only come with many years of experience Don't worry, one day you'll find some tricks like that, and maybe even better ones yourself, and teach us all. Peter Enregistrer
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Post by kris on Nov 12, 2017 13:33:59 GMT
Just to clarify this happened a while ago.
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Post by kris on Nov 12, 2017 13:35:30 GMT
These practical tricks only come with many years of experience Don't worry, one day you'll find some tricks like that, and maybe even better ones yourself, and teach us all. Peter Enregistreri hope so Peter as its getting like you need all the tricks to keep running an old working boat on a deteriating network. I'm not going to even mention the hassle after coming off the Trent through Nottingham.
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Post by aquarat on Nov 12, 2017 13:36:18 GMT
These practical tricks only come with many years of experience Don't worry, one day you'll find some tricks like that, and maybe even better ones yourself, and teach us all. Peter EnregistrerI have 3 full elsan that need emptying..,,,,
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Post by bargemast on Nov 12, 2017 13:38:48 GMT
Just to clarify this happened a while ago. That clarifies why I didn't manage to find it on the actual frontpages of the well known news-papers (anymore ?) Peter Enregistrer
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Post by bargemast on Nov 12, 2017 13:44:02 GMT
These practical tricks only come with many years of experience Don't worry, one day you'll find some tricks like that, and maybe even better ones yourself, and teach us all. Peter EnregistrerI have 3 full elsan that need emptying..,,,, Of course, you shouldn't empty these in the cut, but in an emergency it could do the trick because of the sudden weight reduction, which could make your boat float again, to have an even better chance, pee in the cut aswell (please don't tell anyone I told you) Peter. Enregistrer
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Post by bargemast on Nov 12, 2017 13:48:23 GMT
it probably has damaged it which is a worry on an old boat, but I doubt I can claim compensation. With CRT claiming they own canals and rivers from 'side to side' and being responsible for these waterways fit for navigation, then I would certainly look at contacting them for the cost of having your boat out of the water, examined by a hull surveyor, and charged for any repair work necessary. Perhaps this will be the alarm bell ringing to wake them up and start clearing the waterways of debris. I'm still astounded at all the chunks of rock and blocks of stones we have seen by the edges of the Leeds & Liverpool Canal for instance. This kind of work - lifting these stones out of the water is child's play, the fact that it hasn't been done shows pure contempt for boats and boaters. I think that that's surely worth a try, you never know what their answer may be, even if you think that you know. You've got nothing to lose by asking. Peter Enregistrer
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Post by aquarat on Nov 12, 2017 13:51:18 GMT
I have 3 full elsan that need emptying..,,,, Of course, you shouldn't empty these in the cut, but in an emergency it could do the trick because of the sudden weight reduction, which could make your boat float again, to have an even better chance, pee in the cut aswell (please don't tell anyone I told you) Peter. EnregistrerGod forbid, I was joking, last time I had a pee in the cut I fell in ;-)
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