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Post by aquarat on Nov 12, 2017 13:55:07 GMT
Into your own wee? Poetry in Action? Exactly! Nowadays if we ground I just throw the mrs in and seems to do the trick, I told her to go on a diet! Eeek, that might be trouble, must lay off the Sunday wobbly coffee's |
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Post by bargemast on Nov 12, 2017 14:07:13 GMT
Into your own wee? Poetry in Action? I only remember "Poetry in motion" (not in action) Peter Enregistrer |
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Post by kris on Nov 12, 2017 14:33:15 GMT
With CRT claiming they own canals and rivers from 'side to side' and being responsible for these waterways fit for navigation, then I would certainly look at contacting them for the cost of having your boat out of the water, examined by a hull surveyor, and charged for any repair work necessary. Perhaps this will be the alarm bell ringing to wake them up and start clearing the waterways of debris. I'm still astounded at all the chunks of rock and blocks of stones we have seen by the edges of the Leeds & Liverpool Canal for instance. This kind of work - lifting these stones out of the water is child's play, the fact that it hasn't been done shows pure contempt for boats and boaters. I think that that's surely worth a try, you never know what their answer may be, even if you think that you know. You've got nothing to lose by asking. Peter Enregistreryour right I don't know, but I imagine their bill for pushing me off would be very similar to my bill for repairs. |
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Post by cygnus on Nov 12, 2017 14:44:48 GMT
Those lollipops are still there.
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Post by kris on Nov 12, 2017 14:47:17 GMT
Those lollipops are still there. yes but they don't mark out the whole of the area where obstacles are present. |
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Post by bargemast on Nov 12, 2017 15:10:27 GMT
I think that that's surely worth a try, you never know what their answer may be, even if you think that you know. You've got nothing to lose by asking. Peter Enregistreryour right I don't know, but I imagine their bill for pushing me off would be very similar to my bill for repairs. They wouldn't have had to come to push you off if they had put the definitely needed warning lollipops up there. How would you have known that you would run aground, I mean run onto a concrete block, at such a distance from the bank ? It's only due to their fault, lack of maintenance, and lack of warning signals. In France instead of lollipops etc, they often put signs on the bank indicating how far away from the bank to should stay to be safe.  Peter Enregistrer |
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Post by kris on Nov 12, 2017 15:59:31 GMT
your right I don't know, but I imagine their bill for pushing me off would be very similar to my bill for repairs. They wouldn't have had to come to push you off if they had put the definitely needed warning lollipops up there. How would you have known that you would run aground, I mean run onto a concrete block, at such a distance from the bank ? It's only due to their fault, lack of maintenance, and lack of warning signals. In France instead of lollipops etc, they often put signs on the bank indicating how far away from the bank to should stay to be safe. Peter Enregistrer I agree with everything you are saying Peter yes it is there fault they should do something to remove the obstruction, especially if a few boats have had issues. But the only way to get money from them would be to pay a sicitor. This could end up being exspensive for me. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2017 16:12:04 GMT
Into your own wee? Poetry in Action? I only remember "Poetry in motion" (not in action) Peter EnregistrerIts a great song. |
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Post by bargemast on Nov 12, 2017 16:16:27 GMT
I only remember "Poetry in motion" (not in action) Peter EnregistrerIts a great song. That's why I remembered this old song. Peter Enregistrer |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2017 16:24:11 GMT
I remember it fondly as my mum had the record and I used to hear it a lot as a boy. Its not necessarily accurate but its a beautiful song imo.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2017 16:26:52 GMT
just to prove it can happen to anyone. Here's a picture of my boat stuck on a concrete block, just below heck railway bridge on the Aire and Calder. The photo doesn't really show it very well, basically the boat about 12ft from the stern and about 7ftfrom the side of the boat is sat on a concrte block so that its pivoting. The concrete block is sat about 10-12ft into the channel, it's left over from a nasty repair that Bw/crt did to the pilling on this stretch. They are aware that there are underwater obstacles on this stretch if you look in the back ground of the photo, you can see two yello lollipops these are to mark where other boats have run aground on concrete blocks. Obviously they need to put more yellow lolly pops in.  Call the rozzers and say you have seen a ww2 bomb wedged under a piece of concrete in the canal as the water was clear. |
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Post by Mr Stabby on Nov 12, 2017 16:36:58 GMT
I think that that's surely worth a try, you never know what their answer may be, even if you think that you know. You've got nothing to lose by asking. Peter Enregistreryour right I don't know, but I imagine their bill for pushing me off would be very similar to my bill for repairs. Would the boat not sit higher in the water if you threw some of the boxes of shit off?  |
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Post by kris on Nov 12, 2017 16:38:59 GMT
your right I don't know, but I imagine their bill for pushing me off would be very similar to my bill for repairs. Would the boat not sit higher in the water if you threw some of the boxes of shit off? um let me think about that.......twat. |
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Post by Jim on Nov 12, 2017 17:05:55 GMT
Would the boat not sit higher in the water if you threw some of the boxes of shit off? um let me think about that.......twat. dried shit doesn't weigh much, probably buoyant, so the best method would be to wrap it in a stout plastic bag or three and use them to float you off. |
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Post by TonyDunkley on Nov 12, 2017 17:38:26 GMT
Our worst grounding on the A&CN was where the gravel barges used to unload/turn near Fairies Hill. Their props used to churn up a fair bit of silt creating a nice underwater bank that would catch out unwary boaters. We only got stuck once though as we knew it was there after that (on right side on the approach going towards the lock at Woodnook) when we passed in the future. It took me a while to get off. It's probably still there, and unmarked too. It will still be there, and for the precise same reasons that it was there long before the Trent gravellers ever began delivering to Whitwood. The basin there is right in a bight of the river Calder, and in common with most bights on rivers, there's a shallow ness opposite, caused by the slacker current allowing waterborne sediment to settle out. Standard practice when unloading there was for the barges to run against a head spring, gradually moving ahead to bring the sand/gravel remaining in the holds under under the grab. After unloading, the barges, by then reduced to drawing around 5' at the stern, were turned by backing out of the basin, running ahead upriver past the basin, and the ness that pleasure craft drawing around half what the barges did had so much difficulty in avoiding, then swinging stern first back into the basin, allowing the river current to swing the bows downstream and complete the turn. If anything, the barge operations at Whitwood, far from adding sand and silt to the ness, actually reduced the extent of it there. Such difficulties as pleasure craft encountered there were self inflicted and due entirely to passing too close to the ness. |
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