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Post by kris on Nov 12, 2017 10:42:34 GMT
just to prove it can happen to anyone. Here's a picture of my boat stuck on a concrete block, just below heck railway bridge on the Aire and Calder. The photo doesn't really show it very well, basically the boat about 12ft from the stern and about 7ftfrom the side of the boat is sat on a concrte block so that its pivoting. The concrete block is sat about 10-12ft into the channel, it's left over from a nasty repair that Bw/crt did to the pilling on this stretch. They are aware that there are underwater obstacles on this stretch if you look in the back ground of the photo, you can see two yello lollipops these are to mark where other boats have run aground on concrete blocks. Obviously they need to put more yellow lolly pops in.
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Post by naughtyfox on Nov 12, 2017 10:50:51 GMT
Great Heck!
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Post by thebfg on Nov 12, 2017 11:06:13 GMT
Obviously they need to put more yellow lolly pops in. Or send someone in with waders and lift them out. It's obviously not deep
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Post by kris on Nov 12, 2017 11:08:11 GMT
Obviously they need to put more yellow lolly pops in. Or send someone in with waders and lift them out. It's obviously not deep no that's far to sensible. I draw about 3ft 6 when under way. The blocks are quite big you wouldn't lift them out without a crane.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2017 11:18:28 GMT
Those yellow markers are fairly new I think, I dont recall them from when we used to boat along there. Pretty poor to leave them blocks there.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2017 11:19:51 GMT
It is. And the field to the right is near to where the train came to rest in one of the worst rail crashes in the UK.
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Post by naughtyfox on Nov 12, 2017 11:25:41 GMT
Someone told us the Knottingley-Goole Canal is 16-feet deep. It's a lovely feeling when there's just water below you and you can just get a move on. Popped back here as there's a thread on Canalworld which fits in here as it's local - Kellingley Colliery towers coming down (well, one of them). I took a photo of these in August as we sailed towards them from Selby: canalworld.net/forums/index.php?/topic/93940-aire-and-calder-landmark-demolished/ My pic:
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Post by naughtyfox on Nov 12, 2017 11:31:21 GMT
"The Great Heck rail crash, widely known as the Selby rail crash, was a high-speed train accident that occurred at Great Heck near Selby, on the morning of 28 February 2001. Ten people died, including the drivers of both trains involved, and 82 people suffered serious injuries. It remains the worst rail disaster of the 21st century in the United Kingdom. The crash occurred at approximately 06:13, when a Land Rover Defender towing a loaded trailer (carrying a Renault Savanna estate car) swerved off the westbound M62 motorway just before a bridge over the railway. The vehicle ran 30 yards (27 m) down an embankment and onto the southbound railway track. The Land Rover's driver, Gary Neil Hart, tried to reverse it off the track, but he could not. While he was using a mobile telephone to call the emergency services after exiting the vehicle, the Land Rover was hit by a southbound GNER InterCity 225 heading from Newcastle to London King's Cross. The rest can be read here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Heck_rail_crash" The bridge at Great Heck and a train heading South.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2017 11:42:12 GMT
The bridge at Great Heck and a Virgin train taking it's profits to Richard Branson's tax paradise island in the Caribbean. Why use the thread to have a dig at the Railways? It was primarily faults with the road/driving legislation that caused the incident. Kris, how did/will you get free?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2017 12:25:47 GMT
And it wasn't even one of Branson's trains involved anyway, the accident pre-dated their takeover of the ECML franchise. Anyway this is us approaching the same spot on what turned out to be our last ever trip on our boat. (And Simon the JRT's first).
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Post by bargemast on Nov 12, 2017 12:39:41 GMT
just to prove it can happen to anyone. Here's a picture of my boat stuck on a concrete block, just below heck railway bridge on the Aire and Calder. The photo doesn't really show it very well, basically the boat about 12ft from the stern and about 7ftfrom the side of the boat is sat on a concrte block so that its pivoting. The concrete block is sat about 10-12ft into the channel, it's left over from a nasty repair that Bw/crt did to the pilling on this stretch. They are aware that there are underwater obstacles on this stretch if you look in the back ground of the photo, you can see two yello lollipops these are to mark where other boats have run aground on concrete blocks. Obviously they need to put more yellow lolly pops in. That's not much fun Kris, I hope that the concrete block didn't do any damage to the bottom of your boat. One thing is sure, I won't make the bottom any better, if there's damage, can you claim anything from C&RT for not having put markers in the canal to indicate these destructive obstructions ? I always worry about running aground, is has happened too much in the past on the badly maintained smaller commercial canals in France. Nowadays I'm better prepare and always have a bucket full of water on board, so if I run aground now, I empty the bucket in the canal, and I'm on my way again Good luck, Peter Enregistrer
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2017 12:51:23 GMT
Our worst grounding on the A&CN was where the gravel barges used to unload/turn near Fairies Hill. Their props used to churn up a fair bit of silt creating a nice underwater bank that would catch out unwary boaters. We only got stuck once though as we knew it was there after that (on right side on the approach going towards the lock at Woodnook) when we passed in the future.
It took me a while to get off.
It's probably still there, and unmarked too.
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Post by thebfg on Nov 12, 2017 12:52:33 GMT
"The Great Heck rail crash, widely known as the Selby rail crash, was a high-speed train accident that occurred at Great Heck near Selby, on the morning of 28 February 2001. Ten people died, including the drivers of both trains involved, and 82 people suffered serious injuries. It remains the worst rail disaster of the 21st century in the United Kingdom. The crash occurred at approximately 06:13, when a Land Rover Defender towing a loaded trailer (carrying a Renault Savanna estate car) swerved off the westbound M62 motorway just before a bridge over the railway. The vehicle ran 30 yards (27 m) down an embankment and onto the southbound railway track. The Land Rover's driver, Gary Neil Hart, tried to reverse it off the track, but he could not. While he was using a mobile telephone to call the emergency services after exiting the vehicle, the Land Rover was hit by a southbound GNER InterCity 225 heading from Newcastle to London King's Cross. The rest can be read here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Heck_rail_crash" The bridge at Great Heck and a Virgin train taking it's profits to Richard Branson's tax paradise island in the Caribbean. I remember it well. I bet the driver was quite uninsurable after. Having his previous insurer paying out 22 million. It does raise questions about the automatic parole at half a sentence. 30 months does not seem enough. When ten years is the maximum and he was convicted of ten deaths. You would of thought it would be the maximum sentence. But saying that. Can you be charged ten times. I always thought you could only be charged with the most serious offence if they happen at the same time. I ask as I remember the m1 lorry drivers have more than one charge.
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Post by peterboat on Nov 12, 2017 12:54:38 GMT
just to prove it can happen to anyone. Here's a picture of my boat stuck on a concrete block, just below heck railway bridge on the Aire and Calder. The photo doesn't really show it very well, basically the boat about 12ft from the stern and about 7ftfrom the side of the boat is sat on a concrte block so that its pivoting. The concrete block is sat about 10-12ft into the channel, it's left over from a nasty repair that Bw/crt did to the pilling on this stretch. They are aware that there are underwater obstacles on this stretch if you look in the back ground of the photo, you can see two yello lollipops these are to mark where other boats have run aground on concrete blocks. Obviously they need to put more yellow lolly pops in. Bugger!
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Post by thebfg on Nov 12, 2017 12:57:48 GMT
Did you get it afloat again.
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