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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2017 17:11:40 GMT
A lot of people from hot countries have turned up in the UK in the last 20 -30 years. Must be a bit of a shock to the system.
Of course that's probably got nothing to do with it just an idle observation.
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Post by Delta9 on Dec 11, 2017 17:31:40 GMT
Well I got my arse in to gear and got on my snowy roof and shoved a brush down my chimney. I got a fair bit of soot out, but I wouldn't have thought enough to block it. Maybe it had all bunched up in one place.. whatever. So I got a fire going, it draws well now nd stays lit.. 5 mins later, as soon as the stove got hot it starts pissing smoke out where the flue joins the stove. I had recently resealed that joint with 1200 degree silicone, so I can't see why that is happening. I had this issue before where whatever I sealed it with would only last a few weeks. I came to the conclusion that the stove was poorly installed and needed taking out and re-fitting by a pro. That is why I ended up just using the electric heating. This stove has always been a pain. Hopefully the constant power cuts here are short lived tonight with -10 forecast. It would be good if the marina could just get their arse in gear and sort it out. If it gets too cold I will walk to work and sleep there.
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Post by Delta9 on Dec 11, 2017 17:32:37 GMT
And just as I hit post on that the power goes off.. Fuck this marina.
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Post by peterboat on Dec 11, 2017 17:35:33 GMT
And just as I hit post on that the power goes off.. Fuck this marina. What a bugger!!!
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Post by lollygagger on Dec 11, 2017 17:40:27 GMT
Well I got my arse in to gear and got on my snowy roof and shoved a brush down my chimney. I got a fair bit of soot out, but I wouldn't have thought enough to block it. Maybe it had all bunched up in one place.. whatever. So I got a fire going, it draws well now nd stays lit.. 5 mins later, as soon as the stove got hot it starts pissing smoke out where the flue joins the stove. I had recently resealed that joint with 1200 degree silicone, so I can't see why that is happening. I had this issue before where whatever I sealed it with would only last a few weeks. I came to the conclusion that the stove was poorly installed and needed taking out and re-fitting by a pro. That is why I ended up just using the electric heating. This stove has always been a pain. Hopefully the constant power cuts here are short lived tonight with -10 forecast. It would be good if the marina could just get their arse in gear and sort it out. If it gets too cold I will walk to work and sleep there. To the right in your pic, the collar has split diagonally and opened up? And the flue seems to hit the stove at a jaunty angle which could be the cause. Has the stove shuffled across the floor orwas it installed like that?
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Post by Delta9 on Dec 11, 2017 17:42:52 GMT
I seriously need a new boat, one that isn't an old knacker, that is more self sufficient so I don't have to stay in this marina.
I have been looking for about a year, but on a very limited budget, so everything I've looked at has been as bad or worse than my current boat. Once I have the money from my dads accounts I'll finally be able to afford something fit for human habitation.
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Post by Delta9 on Dec 11, 2017 17:45:08 GMT
Well I got my arse in to gear and got on my snowy roof and shoved a brush down my chimney. I got a fair bit of soot out, but I wouldn't have thought enough to block it. Maybe it had all bunched up in one place.. whatever. So I got a fire going, it draws well now nd stays lit.. 5 mins later, as soon as the stove got hot it starts pissing smoke out where the flue joins the stove. I had recently resealed that joint with 1200 degree silicone, so I can't see why that is happening. I had this issue before where whatever I sealed it with would only last a few weeks. I came to the conclusion that the stove was poorly installed and needed taking out and re-fitting by a pro. That is why I ended up just using the electric heating. This stove has always been a pain. Hopefully the constant power cuts here are short lived tonight with -10 forecast. It would be good if the marina could just get their arse in gear and sort it out. If it gets too cold I will walk to work and sleep there. To the right in your pic, the collar has split diagonally and opened up? And the flue seems to hit the stove at a jaunty angle which could be the cause. Has the stove shuffled across the floor orwas it installed like that? very slightly, but it is filled with sealant. The smoke is coming from all around the collar, not just that bit. It has always been like that, and the stove position. It worked fine for the first year I had the boat. The stove is bolted very firmly in that position so doesn't move at all
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2017 17:47:21 GMT
Might be a downdraught problem of some sort. Longer external terminal might sort it out. Is there a Chinaman's cap on it?
I've got a villager puffin (basically same stove) on one of my boats and have used it in all sorts of different places and never had a problem with a 12 inch terminal .
Even beside tall buildings.
I'd fill the gap with fire rope rather than high temp sealant. Then fire cement on top.
I hope you keep warm. Is it Wigrams Turn marina? Just wondered after your snowman photo.
Is that smoke not the sealant curing ?
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Post by lollygagger on Dec 11, 2017 17:49:53 GMT
To the right in your pic, the collar has split diagonally and opened up? And the flue seems to hit the stove at a jaunty angle which could be the cause. Has the stove shuffled across the floor orwas it installed like that? very slightly, but it is filled with sealant. The smoke is coming from all around the collar, not just that bit. Yes but if it's split it goes from being the strongest shape to a spring. It needs to be a solid ring, you need a new one I reckon. I also think if I were you I'd try and site the stove more directly under the flue while I was at it. You'll need to fix it to sell so might as well do it now, it's not really a big job.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2017 17:55:24 GMT
The collar on a villager stove is welded to the stove. Its not a replaceable part at least it doesn't seem to be. One way to secure it might be to get a stainless T-bolt clamp the right diameter, open it up and place it around the collar then do the bolt up really tight. Before doing this remove all the sealant and the gap with fire rope. Then clamp it tight then run a little bit of fire cement around the top.
Its a bodge but if it is a welded collar ( I think it is) then its that or someone to weld another one or repair it which is more complicated.
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Post by Delta9 on Dec 11, 2017 18:01:43 GMT
Might be a downdraught problem of some sort. Longer external terminal might sort it out. Is there a Chinaman's cap on it? I've got a villager puffin (basically same stove) on one of my boats and have used it in all sorts of different places and never had a problem with a 12 inch terminal . Even beside tall buildings. I'd fill the gap with fire rope rather than high temp sealant. Then fire cement on top. I hope you keep warm. Is it Wigrams Turn marina? Just wondered after your snowman photo. Is that smoke not the sealant curing ? The chimney is pretty long with a hat, and it's drawing well now I've swept it, so I don't think that's the cause. I did wonder if it was just the silicone curing as it smells more chemically than woody. I've let it burn through a log but it was still going, and I had to open the door to let all the smoke out, losing what little heat I gained. Yes, Wigrams. It is utter shit and always has been, but it's all I can find with facilities close to my work. I have also had the pleasure of a luke warm shower in a freezing cold room thanks to their wonderful facilities. They couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery. If I can get a better equipped boat I will have more options open to me.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2017 18:13:32 GMT
Might be a downdraught problem of some sort. Longer external terminal might sort it out. Is there a Chinaman's cap on it? I've got a villager puffin (basically same stove) on one of my boats and have used it in all sorts of different places and never had a problem with a 12 inch terminal . Even beside tall buildings. I'd fill the gap with fire rope rather than high temp sealant. Then fire cement on top. I hope you keep warm. Is it Wigrams Turn marina? Just wondered after your snowman photo. Is that smoke not the sealant curing ? The chimney is pretty long with a hat, and it's drawing well now I've swept it, so I don't think that's the cause. I did wonder if it was just the silicone curing as it smells more chemically than woody. I've let it burn through a log but it was still going, and I had to open the door to let all the smoke out, losing what little heat I gained. Yes, Wigrams. It is utter shit and always has been, but it's all I can find with facilities close to my work. I have also had the pleasure of a luke warm shower in a freezing cold room thanks to their wonderful facilities. They couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery. If I can get a better equipped boat I will have more options open to me. I can't see from the picture but has that stove got a back boiler? I have on my squirrel. When I stick a brush down the chimney and flue all the crap sits on the flange just below the flue and you have to pull it out by sliding your hand into the narrow gap to drag it out. Otherwise it blocks the flow of air. I don't think it's the cause of your problem as you say it's drawing Ok, but just thought it worth mentioning. A poor seal certainly won't help.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2017 18:23:03 GMT
Have you by any chance tidied up the stove with some sort of black polish? I made the mistake of using some grate polish on my stove in the summer as it was looking a bit naff. I assumed it would be heat resistant but it completely smoked the boat out for quite a while when I lit it. The smoke was thinner than normal fire smoke but very persistent.
The top of the fire looks a bit dark like something has been applied to it or is this leakage from the collar? If there was a bit of creosote type deposit dripping from the collar it might have a similar effect. Did you open the ash pan completely and let it blast away for a bit? If the fire is very hot I don't think smoke would come from the collar but if there was polish, paint or some other shit on the stove top it would burn off causing smoke. Even fat from using a frying pan on there.
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Post by Delta9 on Dec 11, 2017 18:30:13 GMT
Have you by any chance tidied up the stove with some sort of black polish? I made the mistake of using some grate polish on my stove in the summer as it was looking a bit naff. I assumed it would be heat resistant but it completely smoked the boat out for quite a while when I lit it. The smoke was thinner than normal fire smoke but very persistent. The top of the fire looks a bit dark like something has been applied to it or is this leakage from the collar? If there was a bit of creosote type deposit dripping from the collar it might have a similar effect. Did you open the ash pan completely and let it blast away for a bit? If the fire is very hot I don't think smoke would come from the collar but if there was polish, paint or some other shit on the stove top it would burn off causing smoke. Even fat from using a frying pan on there. I tidied it up with proper stove paint a year or so ago. No polish. It is just the joint that is smoking. I left it going for about 20 mins with the ashpan door open before giving as it was getting too smokey in here. How long would it take to stop if it was just the silicone curing?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2017 18:34:17 GMT
Not sure but I think if it's been going flat out for 20 minutes its not going to be smoke from the wood or coal* *don't sue me if you die from CO poisoning
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