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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2017 17:31:26 GMT
Speeding bikes have bells? Well I never! One of my sarky comments, "how much did you pay for that bike mate? And you didn't get a free bell!" Or "If you can't afford batteries for your bell, shout ding ding!" And to pavement peddlers "won't your mum let you ride on the road, now she's taken your stabilisers off?" Unfortunately on towpaths in London the bicycle bell is used as a substitute for the brake lever because the behaviour of pedestrians is to move out of the way  Its quite funny to see the dickheads trying to work out what to do when a pedestrian does something unexpected. But also quite dangerous. |
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Post by The Lockie on Dec 21, 2017 18:41:23 GMT
“I hate cyclists who?” Are breathing.... nuff said
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2017 18:51:25 GMT
Going back to the OP
Ok so lets think about this. Why would someone on a bike need a light which illuminates a large area around and in front of them? Surely it would be OK just to have a downward angled light to illuminate the path in front in order to avoid obstacles or surface defects.
Or maybe they are going too fast for the conditions and require car-like headlights, or was it because they think people will get out of the way if you blind them. Or maybe its just ignorance. Yes. Ignorance is a great excuse.
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Post by The Lockie on Dec 21, 2017 19:00:16 GMT
think my reply was more succinct 😉
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2017 19:06:24 GMT
I wondered if you were being ironic. I edited my post when I realised maybe you weren't. On first reading I thought you perhaps were.
I don't think hating all living cyclists is the answer personally.
Its a quite an interesting topic really because if people make valid complaints about cyclist behaviour there will always be someone who either attempts to ridicule or introduces fairly heavy attitude into the topic.
This leads me to believe that there is a problem and it is recognised even by people who wear padded Lycra shorts.
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Post by The Lockie on Dec 21, 2017 19:13:51 GMT
It wasn’t irony, just my attempt at humour, which isn’t always appreciated, in fact mostly not appreciated
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Post by thebfg on Dec 21, 2017 19:19:25 GMT
Going back to the OP Ok so lets think about this. Why would someone on a bike need a light which illuminates a large area around and in front of them? Surely it would be OK just to have a downward angled light to illuminate the path in front in order to avoid obstacles or surface defects. Or maybe they are going too fast for the conditions and require car-like headlights, or was it because they think people will get out of the way if you blind them. Or maybe its just ignorance. Yes. Ignorance is a great excuse. I will play the role of the nasty mamil. Perhaps he has a bright light so when he is on the road he has a chance to be seen. He might have a high low beam. Perhaps engage with cyclists and offer your concerns. They might not realise they are being a nob and could be pilot enough to change their ways. Don't crucify me. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2017 19:26:48 GMT
Fair point perhaps it is ignorance or lack of understanding. Can't be ruled out. but surely the average cyclist has enough nouse to realise that a towpath is not a road? I don't know if IQ tests have been carried out but it doesn't take a huge amount of brainpower to work out that you don't need a blinding headlamp to cycle on a narrow path mainly populated by pedestrians. Unless your motive is to get them to move out of the way and prioritise your journey time over their own. Yes - people who are walking are quite often going somewhere just like cyclists so why should they have to stop and give priority to the person who is going faster? Car mentality? This topic is about bicycle users on towpaths. Eta I have very rigid thinking but I see your point about switching from road to towpath and using the same lights. My answer to that would be that people who use bicycles to get from B to A as fast as they possibly can should not be on towpaths. But that's too simple I realise that  |
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Post by lollygagger on Dec 21, 2017 19:29:39 GMT
Going back to the OP Ok so lets think about this. Why would someone on a bike need a light which illuminates a large area around and in front of them? Surely it would be OK just to have a downward angled light to illuminate the path in front in order to avoid obstacles or surface defects. Or maybe they are going too fast for the conditions and require car-like headlights, or was it because they think people will get out of the way if you blind them. Or maybe its just ignorance. Yes. Ignorance is a great excuse. They are for defense against car drivers, same as motorcyclists on constant full beam.. I used to commute on remote country roads. Drivers tend to drive fast when there is nothing to stop them, after all you rarely get the chance. I'd regularly have all 4 wheels off the ground at 70mph in on place, it was fun. There was one cyling commuter doing the same route, he had the flashing blinding lights and frankly would probably be dead in a ditch without them so they have their uses. It's the got to have the latest brightest just for the sake of it mentality that annoys me, it's so childishly flawed when you dazzle everyone coming the other way - sooner or layer someone will crash into you. Yes to car driver mentality. |
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Post by thebfg on Dec 21, 2017 19:30:18 GMT
He may not have a lower setting and doesent realise it's an issue.
He might just be a selfish twonk.
Maybe he does know but hopes to avoid seeing anyone.
What people need to take on-board is that you can't hold his actions against another cyclist.
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Post by lollygagger on Dec 21, 2017 19:33:06 GMT
He may not have a lower setting and doesent realise it's an issue. He might just be a selfish twonk. Maybe he does know but hopes to avoid seeing anyone. What people need to take on-board is that you can't hold his actions against another cyclist. Maybe one of those twonks who'd shine their torch right in your face even if they were walking. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2017 19:36:51 GMT
Going back to the OP Ok so lets think about this. Why would someone on a bike need a light which illuminates a large area around and in front of them? Surely it would be OK just to have a downward angled light to illuminate the path in front in order to avoid obstacles or surface defects. Or maybe they are going too fast for the conditions and require car-like headlights, or was it because they think people will get out of the way if you blind them. Or maybe its just ignorance. Yes. Ignorance is a great excuse. They are for defense against car drivers, same as motorcyclists on constant full beam.. I used to commute on remote country roads. Drivers tend to drive fast when there is nothing to stop them, after all you rarely get the chance. I'd regularly have all 4 wheels off the ground at 70mph in on place, it was fun. There was one cyling commuter doing the same route, he had the flashing blinding lights and frankly would probably be dead in a ditch without them so they have their uses. It's the got to have the latest brightest just for the sake of it mentality that annoys me, it's so childishly flawed when you dazzle everyone coming the other way - sooner or layer someone will crash into you. Yes to car driver mentality. Strobes are dodgy because they interfere with the brain's ability to judge distance. If I were cycling on dark toads I would use two red lamps one on each end of a 1 metre long aluminium bar mounted to the seatpost. And for the front I would have four candles in a transparent box. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2017 19:39:48 GMT
It wasn’t irony, just my attempt at humour, which isn’t always appreciated, in fact mostly not appreciated I think you made a good joke once. It somewhere in the archives. That's 1 more than you then ! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2017 19:47:18 GMT
They are for defense against car drivers, same as motorcyclists on constant full beam.. I used to commute on remote country roads. Drivers tend to drive fast when there is nothing to stop them, after all you rarely get the chance. I'd regularly have all 4 wheels off the ground at 70mph in on place, it was fun. There was one cyling commuter doing the same route, he had the flashing blinding lights and frankly would probably be dead in a ditch without them so they have their uses. It's the got to have the latest brightest just for the sake of it mentality that annoys me, it's so childishly flawed when you dazzle everyone coming the other way - sooner or layer someone will crash into you. Yes to car driver mentality. Strobes are dodgy because they interfere with the brain's ability to judge distance. If I were cycling on dark toads I would use two red lamps one on each end of a 1 metre long aluminium bar mounted to the seatpost. And for the front I would have four candles in a transparent box. I love cycling in the dark, don't use bike lights as there is no chance of being hit up the rear as no cars about. Normally the dog is attached to the bike on one of those long leads and has a small strobe light attached to her collar, I have a super bright head torch so I can blind anything coming my way and make sure if they are walkers/runners they get tripped over by the long lead. The dog has also learnt to have a shit on the run. |
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Post by Jim on Dec 21, 2017 20:50:23 GMT
They are for defense against car drivers, same as motorcyclists on constant full beam.. I used to commute on remote country roads. Drivers tend to drive fast when there is nothing to stop them, after all you rarely get the chance. I'd regularly have all 4 wheels off the ground at 70mph in on place, it was fun. There was one cyling commuter doing the same route, he had the flashing blinding lights and frankly would probably be dead in a ditch without them so they have their uses. It's the got to have the latest brightest just for the sake of it mentality that annoys me, it's so childishly flawed when you dazzle everyone coming the other way - sooner or layer someone will crash into you. Yes to car driver mentality. Strobes are dodgy because they interfere with the brain's ability to judge distance. If I were cycling on dark toads I would use two red lamps one on each end of a 1 metre long aluminium bar mounted to the seatpost. And for the front I would have four candles in a transparent box. after removing the four sets of prongs from the four candles you could mount them on the basket to clear toads stunned by the light. |
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