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Post by quaysider on Feb 28, 2018 20:09:17 GMT
So - I've just been to Argos to collect a chair leg that I ordered from ebay - (it broke and Harveys were useless so I bought one myself)... ANYWAY - as I came out of Argo, I walked towards the car and notice a chap in a sleeping bag/tent arrangement on the pavement behind dunelm... SO I popped into Macdonalds (about 20 foot away) and came back with a big mac meal and coffee to give him.
"I don't want your fucking junk food -clear off"...
I am NEVER lost for words... I was then. I DID leave the food but have to admit to being offended by him. It wasn't you Mr Stabby was it?
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Post by Saltysplash on Feb 28, 2018 20:15:47 GMT
Its the cash they want. Cant buy the next fix with a big mac. or maybe he was watching his figure?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2018 20:16:35 GMT
So - I've just been to Argos to collect a chair leg that I ordered from ebay - (it broke and Harveys were useless so I bought one myself)... ANYWAY - as I came out of Argo, I walked towards the car and notice a chap in a sleeping bag/tent arrangement on the pavement behind dunelm... SO I popped into Macdonalds (about 20 foot away) and came back with a big mac meal and coffee to give him. "I don't want your fucking junk food -clear off"... I am NEVER lost for words... I was then. I DID leave the food but have to admit to being offended by him. It wasn't you Mr Stabby was it? He's homeless not tasteless. I tend to agree with him - McDonald's a pox on the world. Responsible for more litter and obesity than any other organisation I can readily think of. Nasty stuff, along with all their competitors. That said, swearing and being rude at someone with their heart in the right place is well off colour. No excuse for that. A simple 'you're alright mate, I'm not keen on McDonald's' would have been much nicer. |
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Post by quaysider on Feb 28, 2018 20:23:04 GMT
if he's still alive in the morning, I'll take him a subway when I go into town first thing. IF he rejects that, he can starve!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2018 20:31:12 GMT
I recall a saying something like,
'Beggars can't be choosers'
Clearly they can.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Feb 28, 2018 20:34:44 GMT
So - I've just been to Argos to collect a chair leg that I ordered from ebay - (it broke and Harveys were useless so I bought one myself)... ANYWAY - as I came out of Argo, I walked towards the car and notice a chap in a sleeping bag/tent arrangement on the pavement behind dunelm... SO I popped into Macdonalds (about 20 foot away) and came back with a big mac meal and coffee to give him. "I don't want your fucking junk food -clear off"... I am NEVER lost for words... I was then. I DID leave the food but have to admit to being offended by him. It wasn't you Mr Stabby was it? He's homeless not tasteless. I tend to agree with him - McDonald's a pox on the world. Responsible for more litter and obesity than any other organisation I can readily think of. Nasty stuff, along with all their competitors. That said, swearing and being rude at someone with their heart in the right place is well off colour. No excuse for that. A simple 'you're alright mate, I'm not keen on McDonald's' would have been much nicer. Agree with all of this. If you feel empathy for a homeless person then just give them some money. I've heard it said that if you give homeless people money, then they will just spend it on alcohol. Well, same as non-homeless people then, I was in Morrisons earlier today and they had four aisles devoted to alcohol and they sure as shit don't stock that purely for decoration. And even the nastiest can of Polish super-strength lager is a hundred times less unhealthy than a Big Mac and fries. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2018 20:42:19 GMT
I never give anything to people begging because if I give to one person then I would have to give to everyone begging otherwise I its discrimination and discrimination is wrong in so many ways. If I gave to everyone then I'd have no money for myself and my family.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Feb 28, 2018 21:01:15 GMT
I have been homeless myself, sleeping on the streets in south-east London. A long time ago now, early 1980s. I've never forgotten it, and I never fail to feel enormous empathy for the people I see sleeping beneath canal bridges on my travels, I have been there, done that and got the T shirt.
The thing is, when you are homeless you are very rarely hungry. You just get used to not eating. What you really need is something to temporarily blot out the horror of the situation you find yourself in, and drugs and alcohol are far more effective in that regard than a Big Mac meal.
I can understand why the Big Mac meal in Quaysider's post was so insulting to the homeless person, despite his obvious good intentions. It is what a settled person imagines that a homeless person would need, not what a homeless person actually needs.
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Post by bodger on Feb 28, 2018 21:18:54 GMT
I tend to agree with him - McDonald's a pox on the world. Responsible for more litter and obesity than any other organisation I can readily think of. talking to an acquaintance who has a chippy in a very poor council estate area the other day - she said she has a group of schoolkids coming in at lunchtime for a takeaway, and the same kids coming in after school for another one at 3.30. Presumably they go home and tuck in again at 7pm. How can they afford it? ..... and no prizes for correctly guessing that they were obese kids. |
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Post by Telemachus on Feb 28, 2018 21:48:38 GMT
The thing is, the sleeping bag/tent arrangement isn’t for sleeping, it is for begging. If you wanted to go to sleep and actually get some sleep, you would go somewhere away from the crowds. On the other hand if you want to beg, a bag and tent in a very public place is the thing to do. That sort of person might be homeless. Or might not be homeless and just supplementing their dole. Difficult to tell.
I had a similar thing, ignored a beggar when I was going into Tesco but had a pang of guilt as I came out and offered to go back in and get him a sandwich or whatever. He declined. He only wanted cash.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2018 21:54:39 GMT
His response doesn't mean that it wasn't a generous thought and act.
Hope it never deters you from such kindness.
I was advised to always speak to the person first, and ask if they wanted the food or drink.
Makes sense I suppose, if only out of politeness.
Rog
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Post by Mr Stabby on Feb 28, 2018 21:56:40 GMT
The thing is, the sleeping bag/tent arrangement isn’t for sleeping, it is for begging. If you wanted to go to sleep and actually get some sleep, you would go somewhere away from the crowds. On the other hand if you want to beg, a bag and tent in a very public place is the thing to do. That sort of person might be homeless. Or might not be homeless and just supplementing their dole. Difficult to tell. I had a similar thing, ignored a beggar when I was going into Tesco but had a pang of guilt as I came out and offered to go back in and get him a sandwich or whatever. He declined. He only wanted cash. See my post above. |
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Post by Telemachus on Feb 28, 2018 22:13:36 GMT
The thing is, the sleeping bag/tent arrangement isn’t for sleeping, it is for begging. If you wanted to go to sleep and actually get some sleep, you would go somewhere away from the crowds. On the other hand if you want to beg, a bag and tent in a very public place is the thing to do. That sort of person might be homeless. Or might not be homeless and just supplementing their dole. Difficult to tell. I had a similar thing, ignored a beggar when I was going into Tesco but had a pang of guilt as I came out and offered to go back in and get him a sandwich or whatever. He declined. He only wanted cash. See my post above. I did. You were homeless. Plenty of people begging on the street with a bag and a dog, aren’t. |
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Post by Mr Stabby on Feb 28, 2018 22:51:29 GMT
I did. You were homeless. Plenty of people begging on the street with a bag and a dog, aren’t. Can I have your copy of the Daily Mail when you've finished with it? I could use it to light the stove. |
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Post by patty on Mar 1, 2018 6:04:11 GMT
His response doesn't mean that it wasn't a generous thought and act. Hope it never deters you from such kindness. I was advised to always speak to the person first, and ask if they wanted the food or drink. Makes sense I suppose, if only out of politeness. Rog Daughter and I were in London when we came across a big issue seller...it was freezing cold ..he ask us to buy either a big issue or a cup of coffee...as daughter was about to enter Costas(other viarieties available) another man said he'd get the coffee so she brought the Big Issue.. There are a couple of beggars near retail outlet that I go to....I always give to one or the other..but not both each time....how they chose to spend their money up to them, if I was homeless I suspect i'd forgo food for alcohol |
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