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Post by kris on Mar 9, 2018 12:01:17 GMT
That's why the 'Friends' idea came to mind, as there'd be no direct consequences. But getting the contributers to act as one would be almost impossible without details. Rog The only way the friends would have any influence is if they stopped their contributions and made it clear why. Sorry I know you like the friends scheme, but it was deliberately set up to have no influence on Crtt.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 12:04:08 GMT
That's why the 'Friends' idea came to mind, as there'd be no direct consequences. But getting the contributers to act as one would be almost impossible without details. Rog I doubt most Friends are boaters too, so would they be bovvered? Has anyone asked them whilst explaining about the potential affect on boaters? Just not possible now, or is it?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 12:09:07 GMT
That's why the 'Friends' idea came to mind, as there'd be no direct consequences. But getting the contributers to act as one would be almost impossible without details. Rog The only way the friends would have any influence is if they stopped their contributions and made it clear why. If there was a way for the 'Friends' to get good unbiased info and they made their views known to CRT, I do think they could have an influence. Then again sometimes I think pigs might fly.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 12:17:21 GMT
20,000 people explaining why they were threatening to cancel their donations, would surely have an effect. I actually suspect a high percentage of 'Friends' are boaters, wishing to contribute to the upkeep of 'their home' as we do. I certainly know of a number personally. There are no consequences from cancelling donations, unlike refusing to pay increased fees. The problem is that only C&RT have the contact details for all 'Friends' and I guess they wouldn't wish to share Rog
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Post by Clinton Cool on Mar 9, 2018 12:26:01 GMT
An effective protest might be something along the lines of...
Four fat boats meet at a predetermined spot. I'd suggest a hire base might be ideal, one that includes many foreigners on its customer base. Arrive at the spot, having determined when new parties go out on their week or 2 week holidays. 2 fat boats each side of the hire base entrance drop heavy anchors. The canal is now blocked, foreign tourists who have paid a great deal of money for their trips are stuck in port, so to speak.
I'm not sure of the legality or otherwise of this but it would definitely cause a stir, most likely make the national news I'd think.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 12:28:47 GMT
Great idea, but there would be consequences for the individuals.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Mar 9, 2018 12:31:47 GMT
There would be I'm sure, but if the individuals were determined...
It's not very British I know, the French would probably be straight onto it.
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Post by JohnV on Mar 9, 2018 12:38:47 GMT
I was discussing this with Peterboat last night
Like him I agree it's wrong and I will obviously be supportive but I am not going to get too involved with anything ......
It may sound selfish, I suppose to some extent it might be. My Fatboat is an obese boat that lives on salt water, will fit on very few waterways and would only very occasionally have a visitors licence.
My cruiser is narrowbeam and has a home mooring on non-CRT waters, so I only buy a licence for when it is to be used.
The main reason though is that with two boats and with advancing age, I do not have enough time/strength left to indulge in anything else. I wish to use the remaining time and strength that is allotted to me in cruising as much as possible.
I suspect that this feeling will echo among us Oldies
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Post by NigelMoore on Mar 9, 2018 13:15:57 GMT
I have just been sent a “receipt” for a supposed vote registration
However for those interested in the options suggested, here it is –
Please vote on if you believe we should accept any of the following CRT proposed increase in license fees
yes no abstain - Changes to prompt discount: reduction from 10% to 5% from 2019 (2.5% for paying online or by Direct debit and a further 2.5% for paying in full in time) yes no abstain - Demonstration outside CRT offices yes no abstain - Strongly worded letter yes no abstain - Try get politician to change CRT mind yes no abstain - License strike yes no abstain - Blockade yes no abstain - Take legal action against CRT such as Judicial Review. yes no abstain - Demonstration with boats at a number of bottlenecks on the canals for example at Fradley Junction, Hurleston, Caen Hill, Foxton. yes no abstain - Press campaign yes no abstain - 10-20% increase in fees for widebeams phased in over next 5 years
If you selected no, please select which action or actions you think should be taken in response.
yes no abstain - Demonstration outside CRT offices yes no abstain - Strongly worded letter yes no abstain - Try get politician to change CRT mind yes no abstain - License strike yes no abstain - Blockade yes no abstain - Take legal action against CRT such as Judicial Review. yes no abstain - Demonstration with boats at a number of bottlenecks on the canals for example at Fradley Junction, Hurleston, Caen Hill, Foxton. yes no abstain - Press campaign
ballot-12-000333
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Post by NigelMoore on Mar 9, 2018 13:19:35 GMT
Most peculiar, the site is refusing to accept half of my first sentence, even via 'edit'.
The missing words are - " "
!!!!! I cannot even insert them now!!!
I did not take part in the poll, so I do not know how or why I was sent that "receipt".
Well, that worked allowing it to be inserted in italics. Weird.
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Post by Telemachus on Mar 9, 2018 14:01:19 GMT
An effective protest might be something along the lines of... Four fat boats meet at a predetermined spot. I'd suggest a hire base might be ideal, one that includes many foreigners on its customer base. Arrive at the spot, having determined when new parties go out on their week or 2 week holidays. 2 fat boats each side of the hire base entrance drop heavy anchors. The canal is now blocked, foreign tourists who have paid a great deal of money for their trips are stuck in port, so to speak. I'm not sure of the legality or otherwise of this but it would definitely cause a stir, most likely make the national news I'd think. How nice, ruining some completely blameless tourists’ holidays. Better still, why not find out where they live and fire bomb their houses, preferably when they and their children are asleep.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2018 14:25:44 GMT
Seems quite a quaint idea for wide beam boat owners to do a blockade at Fradley junction.
I think they should add ricin poisoning of suspected CRT collaborators and possibly a few high profile motorcycle assassinations. That would get the headlines.
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Post by Jim on Mar 9, 2018 14:35:16 GMT
Seems quite a quaint idea for wide beam boat owners to do a blockade at Fradley junction. I think they should add ricin poisoning of suspected CRT collaborators and possibly a few high profile motorcycle assassinations. That would get the headlines. Is Fradley north or south of the chicane? Can southern snowflake fatboaters get to it?
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Post by Gone on Mar 9, 2018 14:35:53 GMT
I attended one of the CRT consultation sessions and actually most people present felt that a fat boat should pay a bit more than a same length narrowboat. So whilst I have sympathy for fat boats, I doubt they will get much support from most narrowboaters.
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Post by Jim on Mar 9, 2018 14:43:38 GMT
We all accept that payment varies by length, why not by width too, fairest of all would be square metreage. I accept that fatboaters will grumble, turkeys don't vote for xmas.
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