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Post by Mr Stabby on Mar 19, 2018 18:45:56 GMT
One characteristic of the Shroppie is the heavily grooved corner pieces which protect the brickwork at bridges. It seems amazing that these deep grooves in (presumably) cast iron were all created by cotton towropes, or so I'm told. Do they have an actual agreed-on name?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2018 18:48:16 GMT
Bridges. You're welcome Rog
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Post by Mr Stabby on Mar 19, 2018 18:50:28 GMT
Bridges. You're welcome Rog <iframe width="26.09999999999991" height="4.259999999999991" style="position: absolute; width: 26.1px; height: 4.26px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 0px; top: 0px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_41836841" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="26.09999999999991" height="4.259999999999991" style="position: absolute; width: 26.1px; height: 4.26px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1238px; top: -173px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_95220250" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="26.09999999999991" height="4.259999999999991" style="position: absolute; width: 26.1px; height: 4.26px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 10px; top: -15px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_88475069" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="26.09999999999991" height="4.259999999999991" style="position: absolute; width: 26.1px; height: 4.26px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1238px; top: -15px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_29520182" scrolling="no"></iframe> I knew someone would say that: I'm disappointed that it was you.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2018 18:57:22 GMT
I think these things are fake
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Post by Mr Stabby on Mar 19, 2018 19:02:03 GMT
I think these things are fake That's interesting, because I did wonder. All of the bridges on the Shroppie seem to have them, and on other canals which don't have them, there are similar grooves in the stonework. Are they replicas or did they never exist in the first place or what?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2018 19:02:17 GMT
Sorry to be a disappointment...........story of my life.......especially the honeymoon Jane suggests they're called 'groovey bridges'. Rog
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2018 19:05:41 GMT
Bridge guards?
There are some real ones and I do believe that at some point BW or possibly a canal group of some sort had some cast to put where the original ones were missing. A bit like the milepost situation.
The giveaway is that the cast ones are all identical whereas original ones will be all different. Take a pic of the next one and see if all the grooves line up.
Eta there are definitely some original ones about otherwise bridges would have got damaged too badly. Similar bits of iron are let into some lock sides where unpowered boats were strapped to stop them.
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Post by JohnV on Mar 19, 2018 19:11:11 GMT
the real oddity is on the "blow up bridge" on the Regents canal ..... when they re-built the bridge they reversed the pillars so the grooves are on the wrong side
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2018 19:13:12 GMT
There are some that were rollers too, near bends.
There is one on the corner near the Anchor inn at Salterforth on the l and l. Sadly that too looks like it's not original and is a bit 'too shiny' like those.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2018 19:13:25 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2018 19:13:49 GMT
You can normally detect the fake ones because they have a groove ready made for a Shetland Pony.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2018 19:15:40 GMT
There are some corner rollers on the River Wey I think they are original.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2018 19:19:25 GMT
On the picture mrs tabby posted it does look like there are some rope grooves in the stone work above the guard but not behind it so I think it might be original. Tow ropes were very long so would not necessarily be at a certain height and also there must have been numerous occasions where the "stand by" boat would have slowed down to let another boat through the bridgehole then the horse takes up a slack rope. That could explain the various different heights. Oh to be a fly on the bridge 150 years ago It would have been fascinating to see how the problem of passing unpowered (no reverse) boats at a narrow bridge was solved.
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Post by naughtyfox on Mar 19, 2018 19:25:06 GMT
Fake History Grooves. It would be interesting to know the real ones from the 21st-Century ones. I also hate vehemently lock beams carved with crappy 'poetry' with 'deep meaning'. That's just vomit-inducing.
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Post by Jim on Mar 19, 2018 19:31:09 GMT
Fake History Grooves. It would be interesting to know the real ones from the 21st-Century ones. I also hate vehemently lock beams carved with crappy 'poetry' with 'deep meaning'. That's just vomit-inducing. I'll bet the little crochet woolen flowers tied to beam handles make you crotchety too.
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