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Post by kris on Mar 29, 2018 10:29:21 GMT
I've been thinking about this after the discussions recently. I've come up with an idea for direct action that I might take. I'll liscence my boat for canals and cruise up and down the Trent and Mersy between detwent mouth and burton. Only moving at the weekends, particularly bank holiday weekends. This is something I am perfectly legally entitled to do.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2018 10:40:45 GMT
Thats really over the top you rebel.
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Post by peterboat on Mar 29, 2018 10:42:10 GMT
I remember when I bought Joyce from Mercia marina coming down that stretch caused problems and that was in the wintertime
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2018 10:43:12 GMT
I've been thinking about this after the discussions recently. I've come up with an idea for direct action that I might take. I'll liscence my boat for canals and cruise up and down the Trent and Mersy between detwent mouth and burton. Only moving at the weekends, particularly bank holiday weekends. This is something I am perfectly legally entitled to do. I dont know that waterway, so what does that achieve?
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Post by sabcat on Mar 29, 2018 10:45:33 GMT
I've been thinking about this after the discussions recently. I've come up with an idea for direct action that I might take. I'll liscence my boat for canals and cruise up and down the Trent and Mersy between detwent mouth and burton. Only moving at the weekends, particularly bank holiday weekends. This is something I am perfectly legally entitled to do. I like direct action. The biggest flaw with this is that it assumes that CRT are the kind of organisation that will respond to complaints from their users/customers. Amongst other things, their response to Nick Norman's complaint that they've left a lock pound virtually impassable to anything deeper drafted than a plastic cruiser suggest they couldn't give a shit about user experience and will probably think your idea is great because it'll save them water by reducing the number of boats able to pass through a section.
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Post by kris on Mar 29, 2018 10:46:26 GMT
I remember when I bought Joyce from Mercia marina coming down that stretch caused problems and that was in the wintertime Yes it would be fun in summer, but it just might bring home the point that they are charging me extra for water that practically it's impossible for me to use.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2018 11:04:42 GMT
I've been thinking about this after the discussions recently. I've come up with an idea for direct action that I might take. I'll liscence my boat for canals and cruise up and down the Trent and Mersy between detwent mouth and burton. Only moving at the weekends, particularly bank holiday weekends. This is something I am perfectly legally entitled to do. I dont know that waterway, so what does that achieve? The bottom end of the T&M, whilst the locks are wide, a wide beam would create chaos. Rog
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2018 11:10:07 GMT
ahhh i see, a few boats might make them notice, i dont think one will.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2018 11:12:46 GMT
I think sabcat is right, unfortunately.
C&RT clearly couldn't care less about widebeams on the north Oxford, towards Hillmorton, so will maybe react in the same way.
No interest.
Rog
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Post by kris on Mar 29, 2018 11:28:00 GMT
There some very influential marina owners on this stretch that might make Crt take notice although getting Crt to take notice wouldn't nessercerily be the aim. I'm quite aware that Crt don't give a shit about boaters we are the captive audience as it where. But as for bringing the issue to wider attention, some footage of boater rage on the national news mght do something. It would take navigating between Wetspn on Trent to say willinton on a bank holiday Sunday to provide the footage required. It could be considered a work to rule or go slow kind of action. But perfectly legal.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2018 11:37:51 GMT
I hate cynicism, but there comes a point when interacting with some organisations (and individuals on here ) that ones best intentions just become eroded away, and you find that you are as cynical as the next man. Your licence entitles you to access that stretch. If it's your plan I wish you luck and success. Rog
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Post by kris on Mar 29, 2018 11:53:15 GMT
I hate cynicism, but there comes a point when interacting with some organisations (and individuals on here ) that ones best intentions just become eroded away, and you find that you are as cynical as the next man. Your licence entitles you to access that stretch. If it's your plan I wish you luck and success. Rog it's just one of many ideas Rog,
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Post by sabcat on Mar 29, 2018 12:01:07 GMT
What are the CRT changes going to cost wide boaters btw? IIRC the plumber in the other place was obsessed with you paying more for a wide boat. I wonder if he's happy. Thick twat was also convinced that steel stoves were better than iron, until he got one. Shame he doesn't post here, he was funny to laugh at.
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Post by kris on Mar 29, 2018 12:09:08 GMT
What are the CRT changes going to cost wide boaters btw? IIRC the plumber in the other place was obsessed with you paying more for a wide boat. I wonder if he's happy. Thick twat was also convinced that steel stoves were better than iron, until he got one. Shame he doesn't post here, he was funny to laugh at. the plumber won't ever post here, he's one of the top dogs on the other channel. The widebeam surcharge is 10% and 20% two bands below 10ft 6 and above 10ft 6 I beleive. This is just the beginning though setting the precedent that widebeams pay more. It will soon be up to double. Personally I think any direct action has to be a wider campaign against Crt and not just about the widebeam surcharge. The 200million loans and the selling off of BWML are very worrying.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Mar 29, 2018 12:19:02 GMT
I've been thinking about this after the discussions recently. I've come up with an idea for direct action that I might take. I'll liscence my boat for canals and cruise up and down the Trent and Mersy between detwent mouth and burton. Only moving at the weekends, particularly bank holiday weekends. This is something I am perfectly legally entitled to do. You aren't going to get the old girl any closer to Burton than the bridge over the tail of Aston Lock, kris. The chambers of all six of the double locks in the bottom end of the Trent and Mersey (Derwent Mouth, Shardlow, Aston, Weston, Swarkestone and Stenson) will take a pair of narrowboats abreast, but the bridgeholes at the bottom gates of Aston, Weston, Swarkestone and Stenson are about a foot or so narrower than the chambers themselves. With a pair of narrowboats you have to go in and out of the bottom end of those locks singled out, otherwise you get jammed in the bridgeholes. I believe that some of the B & I's were a bit narrower than the standard shortboat beam/width, but I doubt that A41 is as little as 13 feet, which is about the limit for reaching Burton from the Trent. PS. You've just reminded me that I haven't yet finished and posted up the second part of my spiel on 'Upper Trent boats', . . they limited their activities to going no further than Shardlow, . . for the same reasons as stated above !
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