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Post by peterboat on Apr 25, 2018 8:58:55 GMT
I like John feel that they serve a purpose, more voting would be a nightmare and would anybody bother? so might as well leave it
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Post by naughtyfox on Apr 25, 2018 9:18:09 GMT
Feck Off I'm a Lord.....I own twelve square inches In Scoootland (Birthday present) Did you change your Passport and Driving Licence to 'Lord Stumpy' ?
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Post by Stumpy on Apr 25, 2018 9:35:13 GMT
Feck Off I'm a Lord.....I own twelve square inches In Scoootland (Birthday present) Did you change your Passport and Driving Licence to 'Lord Stumpy' ? Only my Nectar Card It's nice to see the checkout girls curtsy in Sainsbury's
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Post by peterboat on Apr 25, 2018 11:24:37 GMT
I have been out with two Ladies over the years both could and do go and sit in the Lords, the second one I had no idea until we went to Crick boatshow and she paid for something by cheque, the stallholder was then calling me Milord I had no idea what he was on about!! Later on she admitted to being a real lady with inherited title
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Post by naughtyfox on Apr 25, 2018 13:59:31 GMT
Well, Peter, you may call me Lord Fox, as I too have a square inch of land in Scotland. I see 'Lords and Ladies' as being simply a bunch of bullies, historically they only got these titles by beating up and killing peasants.
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Post by bills on Apr 25, 2018 14:04:41 GMT
Feck Off I'm a Lord.....I own twelve square inches In Scoootland (Birthday present) If owning a square foot of Scotland qualifies you to be a lord, then my six acres of bog, rocks and heather in the Western Isles must make me a duke at least.
Nicola will be along to take it off us soon, in the approved Mugabe-esq fashion.
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Post by naughtyfox on Apr 25, 2018 14:07:21 GMT
Feck Off I'm a Lord.....I own twelve square inches In Scoootland (Birthday present) If owning a square foot of Scotland qualifies you to be a lord, then my six acres of bog in the Western Isles must make me a duck.
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Post by bills on Apr 25, 2018 14:10:42 GMT
I have been out with two Ladies over the years both could and do go and sit in the Lords,
Yes, but what we want to know is if either of them ever sat on your honourable member.
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Post by Telemachus on Apr 25, 2018 14:12:45 GMT
Well, Peter, you may call me Lord Fox, as I too have a square inch of land in Scotland. I see 'Lords and Ladies' as being simply a bunch of bullies, historically they only got these titles by beating up and killing peasants. Historically blokes only got their wives by killing the competitors and forcing themselves on the woman. Is how you got your misses? Anyway, you are demonstrating that you don’t understand the HoL. Only 92 of the 750 or so seats are hereditary peers, the rest are life peers, mostly not appointed due to their propensity to beat up and kill peasants.
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Post by naughtyfox on Apr 25, 2018 14:14:51 GMT
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Post by peterboat on Apr 25, 2018 14:23:31 GMT
I have been out with two Ladies over the years both could and do go and sit in the Lords,
Yes, but what we want to know is if either of them ever sat on your honourable member.
Most definitely
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Post by naughtyfox on Apr 25, 2018 14:28:08 GMT
My sister bought me that square inch or square foot in Scotland - I was rather angry as it's a complete scam. I still have the 'certificate' somewhere in the car garage. What a waste of money. The people who run this scam suggest you change all your documents (including Passport and Driving Licence) to 'Lord'. Here they are: www.highlandtitles.com/ What you will get with your plot: presentation folder - well, I suppose that's useful for storing the electricity and gas bills in. Might be worth a glance: lochaberhighlandestate.blogspot.fi/ Anyway, one of my relations is John Alexander Millar, boatbuilder. I have his life story here at home printed out, but may not divulge this, as a book is to be made about Fife boatbuilders, and he is one of them, and the info is from/for the book. Here's something in the public domain: www.spanglefish.com/rotaryclubofanstruther/news.asp?intent=viewstory&newsid=86780
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Post by deadly on Apr 25, 2018 14:34:20 GMT
I'm waiting for the petition to abolish the whole of the government, that's one I'd sign, bunch of parasitic welfare queens who most of us never voted for. Give them all their P45 tomorrow, there's plenty of unemployed to replace them and it'd be hard to find someone who would do a worse job of running a nation.
Biggest risk of getting rid of the lords is ending up with a 2nd version of the commons, a government who place the profit of their fascist cronies over the wellbeing of the nation they're supposed to be running, a government where one minority religion is massively over-represented to the detriment of all others. Democratic voting does not work because of the press doing Goebbels-style propaganda and constant mind control on the population. Voted in means selected for the role by a press baron, selected as being the ones which will give him the most profits and do the most for the foreign nation he chooses to support, selected for being a member of (or kow-towing to) the right minority faith.
One thing a life peer has which an elected one doesn't have is the security of knowing some media baron can't blackmail him with "do as I command or my tabloid attack dogs will monster you out of a job".
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Post by sabcat on Apr 26, 2018 10:59:52 GMT
They don't somehow exist as a group of people with no agenda or purpose but steering Albion on a true course. They have business interests etc and are every bit as susceptible to corruption as any other set of politicians. We can't get rid of them though so they don't have to care about their political careers. Of course they aren’t perfect. Some have business interests. A few are susceptible to corruption but most don’t need the money. Sounds just like the House of Commons to me, except that last bit. Before wanting to abolish something that serves some purpose, you have to create/invent a better alternative, otherwise you are just iconoclastic for the sake of it, very negative and unhelpful, and easily confused with an envious person. I said in my first post that the Lords couldn't simply be abolished because it performs a function and suggested an alternative. A better suggestion would perhaps to make Lloyd George's description a reality and actually appoint 500 random people from the ranks of the unemployed. It would be preferable to them being appointed by MPs.
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Post by Telemachus on Apr 26, 2018 14:51:06 GMT
Of course they aren’t perfect. Some have business interests. A few are susceptible to corruption but most don’t need the money. Sounds just like the House of Commons to me, except that last bit. Before wanting to abolish something that serves some purpose, you have to create/invent a better alternative, otherwise you are just iconoclastic for the sake of it, very negative and unhelpful, and easily confused with an envious person. I said in my first post that the Lords couldn't simply be abolished because it performs a function and suggested an alternative. A better suggestion would perhaps to make Lloyd George's description a reality and actually appoint 500 random people from the ranks of the unemployed. It would be preferable to them being appointed by MPs. Why would you want to choose from the unemployed? People are generally unemployed for a few reasons: they are too sick to work, they are too lazy to work, they are too busy (eg being a carer) to work, or they are too thick to work. Or I suppose, like some of the existing Lords, they don’t need the money. In what way would choosing 500 from that demographic be a good idea? You only have to look at the behaviour of the ignorant aggressive rabble that are protesting outside, and trying to gain entry to, Alder Hey hospital, claiming they know more about the best course of action for Alfie than all the doctors, just because they read an article about it in the Sun and saw something on Facebook, to realise how hopelessly inappropriate it would be to have your average working class bloke making any nationally important decisions.
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