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Post by Mr Stabby on Jul 31, 2016 21:28:45 GMT
"100% of the media were backing Brexit apart from the BBC".
LOL!
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Post by haulierp on Jul 31, 2016 21:40:40 GMT
Anyone who voted Remain was voting for the Status Quo,I say that because Cameron had already been given the Bums Rush in his failed
efforts at Renegotiation and the people were not fooled.How could anyone expect a successful Remain Vote to secure any Reform when
you have lost your main weapon which was the threat to leave in the first place.
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Post by ammodels on Jul 31, 2016 21:44:18 GMT
"100% of the media were backing Brexit apart from the BBC". LOL! Independent DM Sun (mostly) virtually every tv debate seemed skewed for leave the other thing is we are all guilty of seeing the media in a certain way, I am guilty of it too. It could be that I saw what I wanted to see in some sources but the newspapers and especially the DM Express and others were definitely pro leave. |
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jul 31, 2016 21:48:28 GMT
Angela Merkel lands at Warsaw Airport.
The Immigration Officer says "Occupation?".
She says "No, just staying for the weekend".
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Post by haulierp on Jul 31, 2016 22:01:39 GMT
"100% of the media were backing Brexit apart from the BBC". LOL! Independent DM Sun (mostly) virtually every tv debate seemed skewed for leave the other thing is we are all guilty of seeing the media in a certain way, I am guilty of it too. It could be that I saw what I wanted to see in some sources but the newspapers and especially the DM Express and others were definitely pro leave. I didn't know you were Remain Andy,maybe it is a case of seeing what you wanted to see.Some people don't give a lot of thought to Politics,I hope Brexit changed that |
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Post by ammodels on Jul 31, 2016 22:04:26 GMT
Anyone who voted Remain was voting for the Status Quo,I say that because Cameron had already been given the Bums Rush in his failed efforts at Renegotiation and the people were not fooled.How could anyone expect a successful Remain Vote to secure any Reform when you have lost your main weapon which was the threat to leave in the first place. But thats what a lot of the remain campaigning was about especially on social media, we need to be in it to reform it. Stay and have a say in the laws and rules, leave and be told what to do. Only from the inside do we have a chance of reforming it etc etc. I voted remain but I didnt want the EU as it is but I knew we couldnt reform from the outside, Juncker nearly made me change my vote to leave but as I was on the fence I asked my eldest how hed vote as hes 17 and it would affect him longer and he said remain. |
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Post by haulierp on Jul 31, 2016 22:05:54 GMT
Angela Merkel lands at Warsaw Airport. The Immigration Officer says "Occupation?". She says "No, just staying for the weekend". We have such a lot in common with the Germans,in fact I would say that even all these years after WW2 there are still only two real countries in Europe,us and them. I genuinely feel for them just now because i think they are being mugged over this immigration. |
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jul 31, 2016 22:07:19 GMT
but thats what a lot of the remain campaigning was about especially on social media, we need to be in it to reform it. Stay and have a say in the laws and rules, leave and be told what to do. Only from the inside do we have a chance of reforming it etc etc. I voted remain but I didnt want the EU as it is but I knew we couldnt reform from the outside, Juncker nearly made me change my vote to leave but as I was on the fence I asked my eldest how hed vote as hes 17 and it would affect him longer and he said remain. Well, that's a bit like staying in a paedophile gang in order to persuade them to stop buggering children. |
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Post by haulierp on Jul 31, 2016 22:12:53 GMT
Anyone who voted Remain was voting for the Status Quo,I say that because Cameron had already been given the Bums Rush in his failed efforts at Renegotiation and the people were not fooled.How could anyone expect a successful Remain Vote to secure any Reform when you have lost your main weapon which was the threat to leave in the first place. But thats what a lot of the remain campaigning was about especially on social media, we need to be in it to reform it. Stay and have a say in the laws and rules, leave and be told what to do. Only from the inside do we have a chance of reforming it etc etc. I voted remain but I didnt want the EU as it is but I knew we couldnt reform from the outside, Juncker nearly made me change my vote to leave but as I was on the fence I asked my eldest how hed vote as hes 17 and it would affect him longer and he said remain. For me and presumably all the rest who voted OUT it was a nonsense.I genuinely believe that Europes attitude to Great Britain stems from WW2 and beyond.We are a belligerent lot us British,not natural team players,we are an island after all and we have a lot to be proud of given our size. i just hope we can get on and build a more cohesive society where everyone has a chance,where everyone matters,just what Theresa May said really. |
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Post by naughtyfox on Jul 31, 2016 22:29:34 GMT
There's nothing wrong with Mondays - it's your life that's shit.
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Post by ammodels on Jul 31, 2016 22:33:17 GMT
Independent DM Sun (mostly) virtually every tv debate seemed skewed for leave the other thing is we are all guilty of seeing the media in a certain way, I am guilty of it too. It could be that I saw what I wanted to see in some sources but the newspapers and especially the DM Express and others were definitely pro leave. I didn't know you were Remain Andy,maybe it is a case of seeing what you wanted to see.Some people don't give a lot of thought to Politics,I hope Brexit changed that I am very into politics and watched everything I could, I agree not many people did though. For some reason its cool to not 'do politics' its only every aspect of your life it affects. |
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Post by ammodels on Jul 31, 2016 22:35:46 GMT
but thats what a lot of the remain campaigning was about especially on social media, we need to be in it to reform it. Stay and have a say in the laws and rules, leave and be told what to do. Only from the inside do we have a chance of reforming it etc etc. I voted remain but I didnt want the EU as it is but I knew we couldnt reform from the outside, Juncker nearly made me change my vote to leave but as I was on the fence I asked my eldest how hed vote as hes 17 and it would affect him longer and he said remain. Well, that's a bit like staying in a paedophile gang in order to persuade them to stop buggering children. is it bollocks, its that sort of rhetoric that turned me away from the twats in UKIP. |
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Post by ammodels on Jul 31, 2016 22:39:43 GMT
But thats what a lot of the remain campaigning was about especially on social media, we need to be in it to reform it. Stay and have a say in the laws and rules, leave and be told what to do. Only from the inside do we have a chance of reforming it etc etc. I voted remain but I didnt want the EU as it is but I knew we couldnt reform from the outside, Juncker nearly made me change my vote to leave but as I was on the fence I asked my eldest how hed vote as hes 17 and it would affect him longer and he said remain. For me and presumably all the rest who voted OUT it was a nonsense.I genuinely believe that Europes attitude to Great Britain stems from WW2 and beyond.We are a belligerent lot us British,not natural team players,we are an island after all and we have a lot to be proud of given our size. i just hope we can get on and build a more cohesive society where everyone has a chance,where everyone matters,just what Theresa May said really. You had me until you mentioned May, no way will she even try and build a cohesive society, its anathema to the very ethos of the tory party in my experience. |
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Post by JohnV on Jul 31, 2016 22:44:31 GMT
There's nothing wrong with Mondays - it's your life that's shit. I don't know if you posted in the right thread but a truer word was never spoken in jest !!! |
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Post by haulierp on Jul 31, 2016 22:44:44 GMT
For me and presumably all the rest who voted OUT it was a nonsense.I genuinely believe that Europes attitude to Great Britain stems from WW2 and beyond.We are a belligerent lot us British,not natural team players,we are an island after all and we have a lot to be proud of given our size. i just hope we can get on and build a more cohesive society where everyone has a chance,where everyone matters,just what Theresa May said really. You had me until you mentioned May, no way will she even try and build a cohesive society, its anathema to the very ethos of the tory party in my experience. You might be right,I have never voted Tory so I am not a natural supporter but I did agree with her words if nothing else. I would never trust a Politician but my faith in people has certainly been renewed by whats happened. |
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