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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2016 17:22:45 GMT
You must have come through very recently?
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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 18, 2016 17:26:00 GMT
Monday 8th August arrived in Calais. 2353 departure Sunday 7th. The four women in the car in front of us asked why the man had said to leave their windows half-open and I said it's in case one of you farts.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2016 17:27:25 GMT
Much as it pains me to say it but bricking up the tunnel would be the best answer. It's a great way to get to mainland Europe but it's getting out of hand down there.
It's ages since I've been on the ferry but I guess there is no encampment by the port in Calais?
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Post by loafer on Aug 18, 2016 17:31:20 GMT
Take a hard hat with you! It's not the first time holiday traffic has been targeted. there was a post about two months ago on a caravanning forum about a guy who had his car and caravan brought to a halt buy guys burning trees in the road and then stated he was threatened by people who were obviously from the jungle. it was the middle of the night when he was travelling on the access road to the ferry terminal which passes right past the main camp. the police pitched up on his call to summon help but too late to apprehend anybody which seems about par for the course. I'd not bother if I were you. Personally, I try to avoid ANY personal risk these days. I suppose you have no choice, and are taking your caravan.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2016 17:33:54 GMT
Much as it pains me to say it but bricking up the tunnel would be the best answer. It's a great way to get to mainland Europe but it's getting out of hand down there. It's ages since I've been on the ferry but I guess there is no encampment by the port in Calais? The bigger problem for the French authorities is that the jungle is along side the road that you drive along to get to the port. The access to the tunnel is further away at Coquelles, but still within relatively easy walking distance from the camp.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2016 17:39:28 GMT
Much as it pains me to say it but bricking up the tunnel would be the best answer. It's a great way to get to mainland Europe but it's getting out of hand down there. It's ages since I've been on the ferry but I guess there is no encampment by the port in Calais? The bigger problem for the French authorities is that the jungle is along side the road that you drive along to get to the port. The access to the tunnel is further away at Coquelles, but still within relatively easy walking distance from the tunnel. Ah right, I did wonder the location of the jungle. Glad all my buggering about over there was done way before this nonsense. Like Loafer I have no interest in running the gauntlet through what was already a shit hole! Any future European travel is on hold till we don't have a dog, flying then hiring sounds much better than getting caught up in any potential hassle in Calais.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2016 17:40:40 GMT
It's not the first time holiday traffic has been targeted. there was a post about two months ago on a caravanning forum about a guy who had his car and caravan brought to a halt buy guys burning trees in the road and then stated he was threatened by people who were obviously from the jungle. it was the middle of the night when he was travelling on the access road to the ferry terminal which passes right past the main camp. the police pitched up on his call to summon help but too late to apprehend anybody which seems about par for the course. I'd not bother if I were you. Personally, I try to avoid ANY personal risk these days. I suppose you have no choice, and are taking your caravan. Yes we are taking the caravan but I'm afraid I'm not going to allow others to dictate where I take my holiday or how I get there. We go by Eurotunnel as its better for the dog. The longer ferry crossings that avoids Calais are stupidly expensive. The tunnel access road seems to get targeted less as its not so close to the jungle, the port access road is very close. i also think people who describe Calais as a 'war zone' clearly have no idea what a true war zone is like but you should know this.
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Post by loafer on Aug 18, 2016 17:45:50 GMT
I'd not bother if I were you. Personally, I try to avoid ANY personal risk these days. I suppose you have no choice, and are taking your caravan. Yes we are taking the caravan but I'm afraid I'm not going to allow others to dictate where I take my holiday or how I get there. We go by Eurotunnel as its better for the dog. The longer ferry crossings that avoids Calais are stupidly expensive. The tunnel access road seems to get targeted less as its not so close to the jungle, the port access road is very close. i also think people who describe Calais as a 'war zone' clearly have no idea what a true war zone is like but you should know this. I haven't been to Calais since 1985, so I couldn't possibly compare. My 'war zone' experience is from on high, hardly able to see the ground, and often at night. No real personal risk! (We often wondered if we were going to go home, though)
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Post by ammodels on Aug 18, 2016 18:18:17 GMT
Yes we are taking the caravan but I'm afraid I'm not going to allow others to dictate where I take my holiday or how I get there. We go by Eurotunnel as its better for the dog. The longer ferry crossings that avoids Calais are stupidly expensive. The tunnel access road seems to get targeted less as its not so close to the jungle, the port access road is very close. i also think people who describe Calais as a 'war zone' clearly have no idea what a true war zone is like but you should know this. I haven't been to Calais since 1985, so I couldn't possibly compare. My 'war zone' experience is from on high, hardly able to see the ground, and often at night. No real personal risk! (We often wondered if we were going to go home, though) Reminds me of one of my favourite stories, probably apocryphal of course regarding aircrew. The German air controllers at Frankfurt Airport are renowned as a short-tempered lot. They not only expect one to know one's gate parking location, but how to get there without any assistance from them. So it was with some amusement that we (a Pan Am 747) listened to the following exchange between Frankfurt ground control and a British Airways 747, call sign Speedbird 206. Speedbird 206: "Frankfurt, Speedbird 206 clear of active runway." Ground: "Speedbird 206. Taxi to gate Alpha One-Seven." The BA 747 pulled onto the main taxiway and slowed to a stop. Ground: "Speedbird, do you not know where you are going?" Speedbird 206: "Stand by, Ground, I'm looking up our gate location now." Ground (with quite arrogant impatience): "Speedbird 206, have you not been to Frankfurt before?" Speedbird 206 (coolly): "Yes, twice in 1944, but it was dark, -- And I didn't land." Although this one makes me smile A Pan Am 727 flight, waiting for start clearance in Munich, overheard the following: Lufthansa (in German): "Ground, what is our start clearance time?" Ground (in English): "If you want an answer you must speak in English." Lufthansa (in English): "I am a German, flying a German airplane, in Germany. Why must I speak English?" Unknown voice from another plane (in a beautiful British accent): "Because you lost the bloody war!" and I think you might appreciate this one too There's a story about the military pilot calling for a priority landing because his single-engine jet fighter was running "a bit peaked". Air Traffic Control told the fighter jock that he was number two, behind a B-52 that had one engine shut down. "Ah," the fighter pilot remarked, "The dreaded seven-engine approach."
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2016 18:24:50 GMT
Quick Google reveals flights for 2 adults and I child Stanstead to Milan £350. Alfa Guiletta for 1 week rental €220 Stick €600 for hotels, €200 for petrol and another €300-400 for food and spending = a lovely touring holiday round Lake Como and the Italian Swiss borders with no shiting in a bucket
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Post by Mr Stabby on Aug 18, 2016 19:23:50 GMT
I shall be passing through on Saturday so shall be able to let you know what it's like. Well, mouth-breathing pikey twat though you are, I wouldn't wish a tenth of the trouble on you as I've had to put up with in Calais.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2016 19:24:13 GMT
Quick Google reveals flights for 2 adults and I child Stanstead to Milan £350. Alfa Guiletta for 1 week rental €220 Stick €600 for hotels, €200 for petrol and another €300-400 for food and spending = a lovely touring holiday round Lake Como and the Italian Swiss borders with no shiting in a bucket Fab, Italian lake Como side Caravan site £340 for two weeks not one. No car rental required. Eurotunnel £250 return No hotel required. Diesel £320. and the dog comes too.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2016 19:25:59 GMT
I shall be passing through on Saturday so shall be able to let you know what it's like. Well, mouth-breathing pikey twat though you are, I wouldn't wish a tenth of the trouble on you as I've had to put up with in Calais. Dear me, anyway I promise to update when I get back. Assuming I am able of course.
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Post by loafer on Aug 18, 2016 19:39:04 GMT
I haven't been to Calais since 1985, so I couldn't possibly compare. My 'war zone' experience is from on high, hardly able to see the ground, and often at night. No real personal risk! (We often wondered if we were going to go home, though) Reminds me of one of my favourite stories, probably apocryphal of course regarding aircrew. The German air controllers at Frankfurt Airport are renowned as a short-tempered lot. They not only expect one to know one's gate parking location, but how to get there without any assistance from them. So it was with some amusement that we (a Pan Am 747) listened to the following exchange between Frankfurt ground control and a British Airways 747, call sign Speedbird 206. Speedbird 206: "Frankfurt, Speedbird 206 clear of active runway." Ground: "Speedbird 206. Taxi to gate Alpha One-Seven." The BA 747 pulled onto the main taxiway and slowed to a stop. Ground: "Speedbird, do you not know where you are going?" Speedbird 206: "Stand by, Ground, I'm looking up our gate location now." Ground (with quite arrogant impatience): "Speedbird 206, have you not been to Frankfurt before?" Speedbird 206 (coolly): "Yes, twice in 1944, but it was dark, -- And I didn't land." Although this one makes me smile A Pan Am 727 flight, waiting for start clearance in Munich, overheard the following: Lufthansa (in German): "Ground, what is our start clearance time?" Ground (in English): "If you want an answer you must speak in English." Lufthansa (in English): "I am a German, flying a German airplane, in Germany. Why must I speak English?" Unknown voice from another plane (in a beautiful British accent): "Because you lost the bloody war!" and I think you might appreciate this one too There's a story about the military pilot calling for a priority landing because his single-engine jet fighter was running "a bit peaked". Air Traffic Control told the fighter jock that he was number two, behind a B-52 that had one engine shut down. "Ah," the fighter pilot remarked, "The dreaded seven-engine approach." Excellent! Here's one of mine, allgedly true: No 43 Sqn, (of Phantom F4s) detached to RAF Kinloss whilst their own main runway was being re-surfaced. RAF Kinloss was the Nimrod base in the north. It was only natural that we should fly 'exercises' with these Nimrod guys, who patrol our seas. During an 'escort' exercise, where a Phantom fighter escorted a Nimrod on patrol over the North Sea, the aircrew on both aircraft began to get bored. Phantom pilot: 'Hey Nimrod, watch this.' Phantom plugs in reheat and barrel-rolls around the airliner-sized Nimrod and settles back down just off his left wing. Phantom: 'What did you think of that, then?' Nimrod: 'Very impressive. Now watch THIS' Nothing happened for a while, probably 10 mins worth of silence. Then: Nimrod: 'What did you think of THAT?' Phantom: 'What did you DO?' Nimrod: 'I went down the back, had a crap and a fag, then came back here!' Buggers, those Nimrod people!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2016 19:48:03 GMT
Quick Google reveals flights for 2 adults and I child Stanstead to Milan £350. Alfa Guiletta for 1 week rental €220 Stick €600 for hotels, €200 for petrol and another €300-400 for food and spending = a lovely touring holiday round Lake Como and the Italian Swiss borders with no shiting in a bucket Fab, Italian lake Como side Caravan site £340 for two weeks not one. No car rental required. Eurotunnel £250 return No hotel required. Diesel £320. and the dog comes too. How much was your shed and what's the depreciation like? You forgot the tyres you are wearing out and you still have to shit in a bucket
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