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Aug 9, 2016 10:18:41 GMT
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Post by kris on Aug 9, 2016 10:18:41 GMT
There seems to be an increase in the number of boats that get "dumped" around the system every fortnight. While not outside of the rules, it does seem like selfish unconscious behaviour by a few boaters in an attempt to avoid mooring fees. While depriving people who are cruising of visitor moorings.
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Post by Andyberg on Aug 9, 2016 10:26:04 GMT
Fuck knows what they would be like if they 'consciously' went about their business of dumping their boats anywhere and everywhere!
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Post by haulierp on Aug 9, 2016 10:28:00 GMT
Here speaks the voice of experience that spent 20 months in one place,whilst refusing both a Tow and the free use of a mooring. A strange viewpoint to say the least from an NBTA member,especially when attempts are being made by that organisation of which you are a member to limit cruising in School Term Time.  |
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Aug 9, 2016 10:35:42 GMT
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Post by kris on Aug 9, 2016 10:35:42 GMT
Fuck knows what they would be like if they 'consciously' went about their business of dumping their boats anywhere and everywhere! There just seems to be an increase in their numbers, looking at the boats I've seen they are not poor and would be able to afford a mooring but just don't want to pay for one. It wouldn't be so bad if they left their boats on mooring pins, but inevitably they want to moor on rings or bollards. So depriving a genuine cruiser of the use of the facilities |
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Post by Andyberg on Aug 9, 2016 10:57:39 GMT
Bet its really bad now around the GU now...bloody pests, should be hit with a 50% increase in license!
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Aug 9, 2016 11:00:59 GMT
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Post by kris on Aug 9, 2016 11:00:59 GMT
Bet its really bad now around the GU now...bloody pests, should be hit with a 50% increase in license! its definately worse where the moorings are more exspensive. I don't know what the solution is because as I say it isn't stricly outside the law, but definately very self centered, arrogant behaviour. |
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Post by JohnV on Aug 9, 2016 11:52:40 GMT
There seems to be an increase in the number of boats that get "dumped" around the system every fortnight. While not outside of the rules, it does seem like selfish unconscious behaviour by a few boaters in an attempt to avoid mooring fees. While depriving people who are cruising of visitor moorings. Often weekending is the only way that some people can do long journeys on the canal system. I used to do a lot of cruising like that in the 80's, using weekends to move the boat in short hops and longer breaks to do longer trips. I would have seen a heck of a lot less of the system if I hadn't. So often it is not always "avoiding paying for a mooring" but sometimes "seeing more distant parts of the system" |
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Aug 9, 2016 12:02:02 GMT
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Post by kris on Aug 9, 2016 12:02:02 GMT
There seems to be an increase in the number of boats that get "dumped" around the system every fortnight. While not outside of the rules, it does seem like selfish unconscious behaviour by a few boaters in an attempt to avoid mooring fees. While depriving people who are cruising of visitor moorings. Often weekending is the only way that some people can do long journeys on the canal system. I used to do a lot of cruising like that in the 80's, using weekends to move the boat in short hops and longer breaks to do longer trips. I would have seen a heck of a lot less of the system if I hadn't. So often it is not always "avoiding paying for a mooring" but sometimes "seeing more distant parts of the system" I appreciate what your saying John and as I've said the behaviour isn't illegal, it's perfectly with in the terms of the liscence. I suppose I should have made it clearer, I'm talking about the boats that do it in a relatively small area. The problem is telling the difference between people weekending the system and people avoiding having a mooring. I can think of 3 boats on this section of theL@L that are indulging in the behaviour I describe. |
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Post by haulierp on Aug 9, 2016 12:02:54 GMT
There seems to be an increase in the number of boats that get "dumped" around the system every fortnight. While not outside of the rules, it does seem like selfish unconscious behaviour by a few boaters in an attempt to avoid mooring fees. While depriving people who are cruising of visitor moorings. Often weekending is the only way that some people can do long journeys on the canal system. I used to do a lot of cruising like that in the 80's, using weekends to move the boat in short hops and longer breaks to do longer trips. I would have seen a heck of a lot less of the system if I hadn't. So often it is not always "avoiding paying for a mooring" but sometimes "seeing more distant parts of the system" Pointless you trying to explain anything,you posted this same very post a week ago,the whole thread is another dig at me from a bloke with a Personality Disorder. Facts and the real world don't matter to this clown,he would have been gassed in Nazi Germany on account of being simple |
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Post by haulierp on Aug 9, 2016 12:08:22 GMT
Often weekending is the only way that some people can do long journeys on the canal system. I used to do a lot of cruising like that in the 80's, using weekends to move the boat in short hops and longer breaks to do longer trips. I would have seen a heck of a lot less of the system if I hadn't. So often it is not always "avoiding paying for a mooring" but sometimes "seeing more distant parts of the system" I appreciate what your saying John and as I've said the behaviour isn't illegal, it's perfectly with in the terms of the liscence. I suppose I should have made it clearer, I'm talking about the boats that do it in a relatively small area. The problem is telling the difference between people weekending the system and people avoiding having a mooring. I can think of 3 boats on this section of theL@L that are indulging in the behaviour I describe. Just you keep moving and don't worry about anyone else,I remember defending you on CWDF back in the good all days and now I find you turning from Poacher to Gamekeeper,you do yourself no favours |
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Post by kris on Aug 9, 2016 12:12:11 GMT
I just don't like people who should get a mooring because they want to stay in one area, who have got the money to pay for one but don't because they are too tight.
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Post by haulierp on Aug 9, 2016 12:17:37 GMT
I just don't like people who should get a mooring because they want to stay in one area, who have got the money to pay for one but don't because they are too tight. I don't like them either but we don't see much of it on the GU South.I can say we of course as I am a part of it collectively so to speak |
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Dumpers
Aug 9, 2016 12:20:57 GMT
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Post by kris on Aug 9, 2016 12:20:57 GMT
That's funny annecdotaly Id heard Milton Keynes is full of piss taking idiots.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2016 13:23:34 GMT
I just don't like people who should get a mooring because they want to stay in one area, who have got the money to pay for one but don't because they are too tight. I don't like them either but we don't see much of it on the GU South.I can say we of course as I am a part of it collectively so to speak Is there such a thing as a dumper? Every boater has to leave thier boat from time to time. If the definition of a dumper is someone who leaves thier boat on the cut, we are all dumpers occasionally. Or are we defining a dumper to be someone who is just trying to save on mooring fees? Live aboard's aren't always on thier boat either and I'm not sure if anyone would buy a boat without the view to cruising on it. What would be the point? It's just another deogratory term used to divide boaters and score points. |
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Aug 9, 2016 13:33:24 GMT
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Post by kris on Aug 9, 2016 13:33:24 GMT
I don't like them either but we don't see much of it on the GU South.I can say we of course as I am a part of it collectively so to speak Is there such a thing as a dumper? Every boater has to leave thier boat from time to time. If the definition of a dumper is someone who leaves thier boat on the cut, we are all dumpers occasionally. Or are we defining a dumper to be someone who is just trying to save on mooring fees? Live aboard's aren't always on thier boat either and I'm not sure if anyone would buy a boat without the view to cruising on it. What would be the point? It's just another deogratory term used to divide boaters and score points. i just used it as shorthand to describe a behaviour that I think is pretty anti social. I suppose serial dumper would have been a better description. As I say what I think is the anti social bit is the hogging of visitor moorings near facilities. |
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