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Post by naughtyfox on Jul 5, 2019 10:10:05 GMT
I was tied on with something more substantial than the dental floss that the narrowboat in the video is using. Yes, we lent kris some of our blue string. When will you be posting it back to us, that stuff's not cheap!!
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Post by Jim on Jul 6, 2019 6:26:08 GMT
Remainers like to vote more than once! Poor confused fox, addlepated by cratch paint fumes and cheap whisky maybe, or just genetic. Many many tory party members have been sent more than one ballot paper to elect the next PM. This isn't a dully fail c&p, it's true. What is it with the right wing in general, cheating and lying? Accusing others of their tactics. I see your best mate "Tommy" as you call him, is going down. Yay! Throw away the key. No doubt he will be on the news whinging and whining about how unfair it is. Are you going along to support him. It'll give your right arm some exercise, pointing at clouds. Heil Yaxley-Lennon!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2019 7:33:51 GMT
We did Keadby to Cromwell in one hit on Slow Motion (33ft NB 2cyl Beta) on one tide. Last hour or so was against the first of the ebb but not a problem even for that little engine.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2019 7:52:35 GMT
We did Keadby to Cromwell in one hit on Slow Motion (33ft NB 2cyl Beta) on one tide. Last hour or so was against the first of the ebb but not a problem even for that little engine. I also did it it in one go on a hire boat in the 80s. We went through the Aegir boar at the top end. It’s a long day doing it in one go though and it’s well worth exploring the Chesterfield on the way.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2019 8:04:42 GMT
We did Keadby to Cromwell in one hit on Slow Motion (33ft NB 2cyl Beta) on one tide. Last hour or so was against the first of the ebb but not a problem even for that little engine. I also did it it in one go on a hire boat in the 80s. We went through the Aegir boar at the top end. It’s a long day doing it in one go though and it’s well worth exploring the Chesterfield on the way. Long days were my boating then, we were also on a mission to get home so it was the quickest way from up north.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2019 8:14:30 GMT
I also did it it in one go on a hire boat in the 80s. We went through the Aegir boar at the top end. It’s a long day doing it in one go though and it’s well worth exploring the Chesterfield on the way. Long days were my boating then, we were also on a mission to get home so it was the quickest way from up north. I think it is still the quickest way to get up to Yorkshire from the GU South. Less locks. Rivers (Soar and Trent) can be a bit too exciting at times though. Something unexpected has always happened to us on a river. We even got stuck at Thrupp on the South Oxford once because the river section was in flood. Only last week we were stuck at Barton Lock on the Avon for a day when they opened up the sluces at Stratford on us after a heavy rain fall.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Jul 31, 2019 7:46:26 GMT
Having left Liverpool we are now probably heading to Leeds. From Leeds we are wondering about coming back down to the midlands via the Trent. Has anyone here done this? If so are there any problems with it being tidal? Do you need VHF? 58 foot NB with a decent engine. If you're still heading for Leeds, and there's enough water available over the Pennines to get you there, then the Trent is undoubtedly your best choice of route for getting back onto the Midlands canals. Far from being problematic, the fact that the river is tidal for 52 miles inland from it's confluence with the Humber is very much to the advantage of anyone wanting to use it as a through route. Unlike non-tidal rivers, the direction of flow changes four times a day and the water levels are routinely topped up twice a day. Although there is commercial shipping using the river as far up as Gunness Wharf - just lowside of Keadby Bridge - you don't need VHF if you're coming onto the Trent there and then heading upriver because at the time you'll be coming out of Keadby Lock - on the first of the 'Flood' - any ships laying at the Keadby or Gunness wharves will be still be sitting in the mud without enough depth of water to move. Upriver of Keadby Bridge regular commercial traffic has been defunct since July 2013, and apart from the occasional AIL's to or from Cottam and Staythorpe power stations, pleasure craft now have the river to themselves. Rather than a 'decent' engine, what you need above all on any sort of river is a reliable one, and that is down mainly to two things which aren't always found on canal pleasure craft - adequate and reliable cooling systems, and reliable and well designed fuel systems. Cooling systems really should be up to coping with continuous operation at full engine rpm/power, and fuel systems should be up to providing an adequate, clean, and constant supply of fuel in conditions that may cause sufficient pitching and rolling to stir up any muck and/or water that might be lurking in the tanks. Failing that, a suitable anchor and cable plus adequate on board supplies of food and drink will see you through any longer than planned sojourn on the Trent's lower, tidal reaches ! As someone new to the Trent you should get hold of a copy of the charts of the lower Trent published by the Boating Association, . . they're not very good, but they're better than nothing. You can also reduce the chances of being 'neaped' - ie. grounding anywhere at local High Water when the next HW will make less depth than the last HW did - by avoiding the upriver passage when the tides are 'taking off', which is from HW on the biggest Spring tide in any fortnightly cycle to the smallest Neap tide in the same fortnightly cycle.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Aug 10, 2019 13:00:18 GMT
Having left Liverpool we are now probably heading to Leeds. From Leeds we are wondering about coming back down to the midlands via the Trent. Has anyone here done this? If so are there any problems with it being tidal? Do you need VHF? 58 foot NB with a decent engine. If you're still heading for Leeds, and there's enough water available over the Pennines to get you there, then the Trent is undoubtedly your best choice of route for getting back onto the Midlands canals. Far from being problematic, the fact that the river is tidal for 52 miles inland from it's confluence with the Humber is very much to the advantage of anyone wanting to use it as a through route. Unlike non-tidal rivers, the direction of flow changes four times a day and the water levels are routinely topped up twice a day. Although there is commercial shipping using the river as far up as Gunness Wharf - just lowside of Keadby Bridge - you don't need VHF if you're coming onto the Trent there and then heading upriver because at the time you'll be coming out of Keadby Lock - on the first of the 'Flood' - any ships laying at the Keadby or Gunness wharves will be still be sitting in the mud without enough depth of water to move. Upriver of Keadby Bridge regular commercial traffic has been defunct since July 2013, and apart from the occasional AIL's to or from Cottam and Staythorpe power stations, pleasure craft now have the river to themselves. Rather than a 'decent' engine, what you need above all on any sort of river is a reliable one, and that is down mainly to two things which aren't always found on canal pleasure craft - adequate and reliable cooling systems, and reliable and well designed fuel systems. Cooling systems really should be up to coping with continuous operation at full engine rpm/power, and fuel systems should be up to providing an adequate, clean, and constant supply of fuel in conditions that may cause sufficient pitching and rolling to stir up any muck and/or water that might be lurking in the tanks. Failing that, a suitable anchor and cable plus adequate on board supplies of food and drink will see you through any longer than planned sojourn on the Trent's lower, tidal reaches ! As someone new to the Trent you should get hold of a copy of the charts of the lower Trent published by the Boating Association, . . they're not very good, but they're better than nothing. You can also reduce the chances of being 'neaped' - ie. grounding anywhere at local High Water when the next HW will make less depth than the last HW did - by avoiding the upriver passage when the tides are 'taking off', which is from HW on the biggest Spring tide in any fortnightly cycle to the smallest Neap tide in the same fortnightly cycle. Bumpety - Bump !
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Post by ianali on Aug 10, 2019 18:45:51 GMT
If you're still heading for Leeds, and there's enough water available over the Pennines to get you there, then the Trent is undoubtedly your best choice of route for getting back onto the Midlands canals. Far from being problematic, the fact that the river is tidal for 52 miles inland from it's confluence with the Humber is very much to the advantage of anyone wanting to use it as a through route. Unlike non-tidal rivers, the direction of flow changes four times a day and the water levels are routinely topped up twice a day. Although there is commercial shipping using the river as far up as Gunness Wharf - just lowside of Keadby Bridge - you don't need VHF if you're coming onto the Trent there and then heading upriver because at the time you'll be coming out of Keadby Lock - on the first of the 'Flood' - any ships laying at the Keadby or Gunness wharves will be still be sitting in the mud without enough depth of water to move. Upriver of Keadby Bridge regular commercial traffic has been defunct since July 2013, and apart from the occasional AIL's to or from Cottam and Staythorpe power stations, pleasure craft now have the river to themselves. Rather than a 'decent' engine, what you need above all on any sort of river is a reliable one, and that is down mainly to two things which aren't always found on canal pleasure craft - adequate and reliable cooling systems, and reliable and well designed fuel systems. Cooling systems really should be up to coping with continuous operation at full engine rpm/power, and fuel systems should be up to providing an adequate, clean, and constant supply of fuel in conditions that may cause sufficient pitching and rolling to stir up any muck and/or water that might be lurking in the tanks. Failing that, a suitable anchor and cable plus adequate on board supplies of food and drink will see you through any longer than planned sojourn on the Trent's lower, tidal reaches ! As someone new to the Trent you should get hold of a copy of the charts of the lower Trent published by the Boating Association, . . they're not very good, but they're better than nothing. You can also reduce the chances of being 'neaped' - ie. grounding anywhere at local High Water when the next HW will make less depth than the last HW did - by avoiding the upriver passage when the tides are 'taking off', which is from HW on the biggest Spring tide in any fortnightly cycle to the smallest Neap tide in the same fortnightly cycle. Bumpety - Bump ! Not sure if the bump was aimed at me Tony. Anyway I greatly appreciate your post it’s most helpful. Almost at Leeds and will be river bound in a week or so, thanks again. Ian.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2019 19:06:25 GMT
The alleyway pubs off Briggate are well worth a visit ... Leeds is a lovely city
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Post by TonyDunkley on Aug 10, 2019 19:44:24 GMT
Not sure if the bump was aimed at me Tony. Anyway I greatly appreciate your post it’s most helpful. Almost at Leeds and will be river bound in a week or so, thanks again. Ian. If you're lucky your arrival at and departure from Keadby might coincide with the days on the duty roster for the one remaining experienced and fully competent lock keeper that C&RT still have there. He learned the job working with two long since retired regular keepers, Don and Terry, who were there back in the days when Keadby Cut and lock were still in commercial use. I was surprised, and delighted, to find him on duty there a few weeks ago when I was with another TB member moving his boat to Leeds from the London area. However, if you're unlucky and it's somebody else on duty when you're going to be coming out onto the river, or if you have any other concerns or questions, don't hesitate to post them up on here.
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Post by ianali on Aug 15, 2019 10:56:00 GMT
Not sure if the bump was aimed at me Tony. Anyway I greatly appreciate your post it’s most helpful. Almost at Leeds and will be river bound in a week or so, thanks again. Ian. If you're lucky your arrival at and departure from Keadby might coincide with the days on the duty roster for the one remaining experienced and fully competent lock keeper that C&RT still have there. He learned the job working with two long since retired regular keepers, Don and Terry, who were there back in the days when Keadby Cut and lock were still in commercial use. I was surprised, and delighted, to find him on duty there a few weeks ago when I was with another TB member moving his boat to Leeds from the London area. However, if you're unlucky and it's somebody else on duty when you're going to be coming out onto the river, or if you have any other concerns or questions, don't hesitate to post them up on here. Thanks for your help. We are going out tomorrow morning after 06.20. Keadby have no charts there... locky said we won’t need one anyway? We are coming off at Torksey. Is exiting the Trent here straight forward? What kind of speed will the current be moving at when I get there?
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Post by Telemachus on Aug 15, 2019 11:34:36 GMT
If you're lucky your arrival at and departure from Keadby might coincide with the days on the duty roster for the one remaining experienced and fully competent lock keeper that C&RT still have there. He learned the job working with two long since retired regular keepers, Don and Terry, who were there back in the days when Keadby Cut and lock were still in commercial use. I was surprised, and delighted, to find him on duty there a few weeks ago when I was with another TB member moving his boat to Leeds from the London area. However, if you're unlucky and it's somebody else on duty when you're going to be coming out onto the river, or if you have any other concerns or questions, don't hesitate to post them up on here. Thanks for your help. We are going out tomorrow morning after 06.20. Keadby have no charts there... locky said we won’t need one anyway? We are coming off at Torksey. Is exiting the Trent here straight forward? What kind of speed will the current be moving at when I get there? We have the Boating Association’s tidal Trent guide on board, if you like I can photograph and email to you if you PM me your email. 18 pages though, so it will be a fair bit of data. I can limit it to Keadby to Torksey pages if that would help.
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Post by ianali on Aug 15, 2019 11:40:12 GMT
Thanks for your help. We are going out tomorrow morning after 06.20. Keadby have no charts there... locky said we won’t need one anyway? We are coming off at Torksey. Is exiting the Trent here straight forward? What kind of speed will the current be moving at when I get there? We have the Boating Association’s tidal Trent guide on board, if you like I can photograph and email to you if you PM me your email. 18 pages though, so it will be a fair bit of data. I can limit it to Keadby to Torksey pages if that would help. PM sent. That’s very kind of you Nick. Send it all if it’s not to much bother, I have lots of data. Thank you very much. Ian.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2019 11:50:20 GMT
If you're lucky your arrival at and departure from Keadby might coincide with the days on the duty roster for the one remaining experienced and fully competent lock keeper that C&RT still have there. He learned the job working with two long since retired regular keepers, Don and Terry, who were there back in the days when Keadby Cut and lock were still in commercial use. I was surprised, and delighted, to find him on duty there a few weeks ago when I was with another TB member moving his boat to Leeds from the London area. However, if you're unlucky and it's somebody else on duty when you're going to be coming out onto the river, or if you have any other concerns or questions, don't hesitate to post them up on here. Thanks for your help. We are going out tomorrow morning after 06.20. Keadby have no charts there... locky said we won’t need one anyway? We are coming off at Torksey. Is exiting the Trent here straight forward? What kind of speed will the current be moving at when I get there? Cant answer the second bit but I do know Torksey is different from Keadby and West Stockwith in that it has a cut/dyke that you turn into on the approach to the lock from the river. Much less chance of messing things up. The lock entrance is behind me in this picture. Looking the other way back towards the lock Both those images were taken not long after some flooding hence the crap floating about.
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