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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2019 12:02:52 GMT
Actually it begs the question why they (keadby and West Stockwith) were all not built like that?
Mr. D might know.
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Post by peterboat on Aug 15, 2019 14:00:15 GMT
If you're lucky your arrival at and departure from Keadby might coincide with the days on the duty roster for the one remaining experienced and fully competent lock keeper that C&RT still have there. He learned the job working with two long since retired regular keepers, Don and Terry, who were there back in the days when Keadby Cut and lock were still in commercial use. I was surprised, and delighted, to find him on duty there a few weeks ago when I was with another TB member moving his boat to Leeds from the London area. However, if you're unlucky and it's somebody else on duty when you're going to be coming out onto the river, or if you have any other concerns or questions, don't hesitate to post them up on here. Thanks for your help. We are going out tomorrow morning after 06.20. Keadby have no charts there... locky said we wonβt need one anyway? We are coming off at Torksey. Is exiting the Trent here straight forward? What kind of speed will the current be moving at when I get there? Torksey is easy Ian its a big open entrance on the left and side you should see the sign for it and by then most of the push will have gone from the tide, its after the torksey viaduct just under half a mile ish and at the beginning of a bend to the right. White Swan for food should be good
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Post by Telemachus on Aug 15, 2019 14:34:16 GMT
Depending on water levels, best not to cut the corner into the Torksey cut due to shallow spits. But otherwise it is an absolute doddle.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Aug 15, 2019 19:01:40 GMT
If you're lucky your arrival at and departure from Keadby might coincide with the days on the duty roster for the one remaining experienced and fully competent lock keeper that C&RT still have there. He learned the job working with two long since retired regular keepers, Don and Terry, who were there back in the days when Keadby Cut and lock were still in commercial use. I was surprised, and delighted, to find him on duty there a few weeks ago when I was with another TB member moving his boat to Leeds from the London area. However, if you're unlucky and it's somebody else on duty when you're going to be coming out onto the river, or if you have any other concerns or questions, don't hesitate to post them up on here. Thanks for your help. We are going out tomorrow morning after 06.20. Keadby have no charts there... locky said we wonβt need one anyway? We are coming off at Torksey. Is exiting the Trent here straight forward? What kind of speed will the current be moving at when I get there? Tomorrow morning's Flood at Keadby will be at around 0545, so ideally you really ought to be away from there earlier than 0620. However, if you're only going as far as Torksey you should still be having a bit of help from the tide all the way there. If your boat draws no more than about 30'' you'll be OK sticking to midstream all the way to Torksey, but if you're held up for any reason and haven't cleared Marton Rack by 1045 be very careful not to ground anywhere along there because it will be very close to (local) High Water and if you park your boat on any of the hard marl banks either side of the very narrow deepwater channel at HW you could be there for quite a while ! Turning into Torksey Cut won't be any drama, . . the tide will have eased off a lot by the time you're there. Come over towards the Torksey side as soon as your're past Castle (Shoal), keeping about a third to a quarter of the river's width from the steep bank by the cut end, slow down as much as you can without losing steerage way and the slack in the cut mouth will help you to turn in.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Aug 15, 2019 19:07:50 GMT
. . . . . . best not to cut the corner into the Torksey cut due to shallow spits. Bad advice, . . the upriver side of Torksey Cut mouth is where it's shallow. Stick to dishing out advice on subjects you do know about !
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Post by ianali on Aug 15, 2019 19:08:46 GMT
Well we arrived at Keadby a couple of hours ago. Walked down to lock to have a look and saw this. Not nervous at all now π
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Post by TonyDunkley on Aug 15, 2019 19:52:45 GMT
If you're lucky your arrival at and departure from Keadby might coincide with the days on the duty roster for the one remaining experienced and fully competent lock keeper that C&RT still have there. He learned the job working with two long since retired regular keepers, Don and Terry, who were there back in the days when Keadby Cut and lock were still in commercial use. I was surprised, and delighted, to find him on duty there a few weeks ago when I was with another TB member moving his boat to Leeds from the London area. However, if you're unlucky and it's somebody else on duty when you're going to be coming out onto the river, or if you have any other concerns or questions, don't hesitate to post them up on here. . . . . . . . . . We are going out tomorrow morning after 06.20. Keadby have no charts . . . . . . If there's anything you're unsure about once you're on your way, give me a ring on 07553 294325, . . . anytime !
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Post by peterboat on Aug 16, 2019 9:56:42 GMT
Are we there yet?
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Post by TonyDunkley on Aug 16, 2019 11:17:06 GMT
The tide at Hull was early this morning and a bit bigger than predicted, Peter, . . add that to the 2' or so of fresh that's going over Cromwell weir and that's going to make Flood and (local) High Water(s) early all the way up the Trent. Good for a bit more depth in the river, but because he was coming out at Keadby later than he should have been, there would be less help from the tide than there should have been from around probably Owston Ferry, down to very little by about Lea Marshes or Knaith, nothing at all by Marton, and under Ebb from there on.
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Post by ianali on Aug 16, 2019 11:59:34 GMT
In at Torksey safe and sound. Locked out at Keadby 06.15 and In at Torksey 10.20 . No problems at all, was rather cold though! Thanks to all those that gave me advice, it helps to have people around that know what they are talking about. Having a beer or two now in the pub here at Torksey. Cheers all. π
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Post by TonyDunkley on Aug 16, 2019 12:41:16 GMT
In at Torksey safe and sound. Locked out at Keadby 06.15 and In at Torksey 10.20 . No problems at all, was rather cold though! Thanks to all those that gave me advice, it helps to have people around that know what they are talking about. Having a beer or two now in the pub here at Torksey. Cheers all. π If you're going on upriver in the next day or two there'll be plenty of water in the river all the way up and the only place you'll have to take extra care is passing Normanton Island, . it's smack in the middle of the river and submerged just below the surface for most of the time ! To get the maximum help from the tide as far up as possible, you'll need to be out of the end of Torksey Cut and on your way up just before Flood. The last mile or two up to Cromwell can be a long hard slog if there's a bit of fresh on and you're late on the tide.
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Post by peterboat on Aug 16, 2019 13:23:43 GMT
The tide at Hull was early this morning and a bit bigger than predicted, Peter, . . add that to the 2' or so of fresh that's going over Cromwell weir and that's going to make Flood and (local) High Water(s) early all the way up the Trent. Good for a bit more depth in the river, but because he was coming out at Keadby later than he should have been, there would be less help from the tide than there should have been from around probably Owston Ferry, down to very little by about Lea Marshes or Knaith, nothing at all by Marton, and under Ebb from there on. I did it the other week Tony low tides no fresh and locked out late, we kept up a steady 2000 rpm and arrived at the same time as Ian did thats why I asked if we were there yet. It shows that nothing on the Trent is an exact science just change one factor and it changes the end result by in some case a small amount and others huge amounts its a river you have to respect
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Post by ianali on Aug 18, 2019 7:28:33 GMT
In at Torksey safe and sound. Locked out at Keadby 06.15 and In at Torksey 10.20 . No problems at all, was rather cold though! Thanks to all those that gave me advice, it helps to have people around that know what they are talking about. Having a beer or two now in the pub here at Torksey. Cheers all. π If you're going on upriver in the next day or two there'll be plenty of water in the river all the way up and the only place you'll have to take extra care is passing Normanton Island, . it's smack in the middle of the river and submerged just below the surface for most of the time ! To get the maximum help from the tide as far up as possible, you'll need to be out of the end of Torksey Cut and on your way up just before Flood. The last mile or two up to Cromwell can be a long hard slog if there's a bit of fresh on and you're late on the tide. Will be going from Torksey to Cromwell probably Wednesday. Will obviously ring Torksey beforehand. However Iβd like to learn more and be able to work out for myself the timings on the Trent, other tidal areas as well really. But where do you start?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2019 7:53:55 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2019 8:35:53 GMT
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