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Post by phil70 on Mar 29, 2020 8:36:41 GMT
We want to go to the boat today, one to check it’s still there and two to fit the oven we purchased recently, problem is the guilts kicking in and I fear the five-o pulling me in the way and turning me around, maybe I should take a bag of food and claim I am feeding the old people.. We also had a few days planned over Easter up the Ashby, was due to meet friends at the top for beers, of course this will not happen, but we still feel we should take the trip, maybe just mooring in the middle of nowhere and staying away from other boats, is that selfish? Go for it, can't see that a boat moored as you describe would draw any attention and I can't see that you would be causing any problem with social distancing Phil
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2020 9:10:33 GMT
We want to go to the boat today, one to check it’s still there and two to fit the oven we purchased recently, problem is the guilts kicking in and I fear the five-o pulling me in the way and turning me around, maybe I should take a bag of food and claim I am feeding the old people.. We also had a few days planned over Easter up the Ashby, was due to meet friends at the top for beers, of course this will not happen, but we still feel we should take the trip, maybe just mooring in the middle of nowhere and staying away from other boats, is that selfish? Go for it, can't see that a boat moored as you describe would draw any attention and I can't see that you would be causing any problem with social distancing Phil ...but watch out for 'judgement by Facebook'!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2020 9:11:02 GMT
If you don't have to access services at all then ok but I wonder what people's reactions will be if you went to the "local shop for local people"
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Post by Clinton Cool on Mar 29, 2020 9:16:28 GMT
We want to go to the boat today, one to check it’s still there and two to fit the oven we purchased recently, problem is the guilts kicking in and I fear the five-o pulling me in the way and turning me around, maybe I should take a bag of food and claim I am feeding the old people.. We also had a few days planned over Easter up the Ashby, was due to meet friends at the top for beers, of course this will not happen, but we still feel we should take the trip, maybe just mooring in the middle of nowhere and staying away from other boats, is that selfish? Difficult isn't it. Go back a couple of weeks, the British public largely stood and watched while supermarket workers, under massive pressures themselves, were abused by selfish morons. Now, safe behind their keyboards, they play at being the police, 'calling out' activities that might be a close call as regards the letter of the law, but pose no risk whatsoever. Bunch of cowards if you ask me.
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Post by lollygagger on Mar 29, 2020 10:06:18 GMT
I think the general idea was to stop every man woman and child who own a boat that they could live on for "a while" deciding that right now or thereabouts would be a great time for a holiday, the sun is shining, canal looks quiet for some reason...
Inevitably that would lead to the usual prime spots being like a bank holiday on steroids.
I don't see how you'd be contributing to that but of course if everyone else has the same idea as you those out of the way spots could be nose to tale...
You'd be pretty knobbed off if the next two weeks were your allotted share boat weeks.
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Post by naughtyfox on Mar 29, 2020 14:51:38 GMT
Outdoor gym off limits ☹️ 90% of the victims of which were over 70 years of age, and the overwhelming majority of the remainder had serious pre-existing health problems. Just looked up my home town - guess what? Fifth patient dies from coronavirus in one week at Princess Alexandra Hospital in Harlow On Monday, (March 23), a patient in their eighties, who had underlying conditions, passed away. Then on Thursday the trust confirmed via a statement on their website that a further three patients had died whilst being treated for coronavirus. The three patients included, a lady in her seventies; a gentleman in his seventies and a lady in her nineties, all of whom had underlying health conditions. 5th patient: “We can confirm that sadly, a patient in their seventies who had underlying conditions, has passed away at The Princess Alexandra Hospital. They had tested positive for COVID-19.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2020 14:56:34 GMT
Yes but the big pharmaceuticals can't make money selling meds to dead people They want them alive for as long as possible. Old ill people dying is going to be quite horrendous for profits. I mean really bad. Not just a bit bad but nightmarish.
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Post by JohnV on Mar 29, 2020 14:57:54 GMT
Something that both of you seem unable to grasp is that, yes the patients who die are elderly or have a medical problem. whereas younger and fitter patients who become seriously ill with covid 19 and are put on ventilators recover. no ventilation ?? chances are, no survival !! so lets all get ill at once when there aren't enough ventilators to go round Logic doesn't seem to exist for some people
that was Vince and Ross by the way
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2020 15:02:33 GMT
That's easily manipulated data.
I suppose what would sort it is if the PM ended up on a ventilator. I wonder if his money friends would consider getting that done.
Might be worth it as it would probably be a Rolls Royce ventilator and he would end up surviving.
Just to make it look more realistic rather than simply a money grab scam.
Who are the winners here? It seems very obvious.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Mar 29, 2020 15:09:57 GMT
"I’m a recently-retired Professor of Pathology and NHS consultant pathologist, and have spent most of my adult life in healthcare and science – fields which, all too often, are characterised by doubt rather than certainty. There is room for different interpretations of the current data. If some of these other interpretations are correct, or at least nearer to the truth, then conclusions about the actions required will change correspondingly... Are more people dying than we would expect to die anyway in a given week or month? Statistically, we would expect about 51,000 to die in Britain this month. At the time of writing, 422 deaths are linked to Covid-19 — so 0.8 per cent of that expected total. On a global basis, we’d expect 14 million to die over the first three months of the year. The world’s 18,944 coronavirus deaths represent 0.14 per cent of that total. These figures might shoot up but they are, right now, lower than other infectious diseases that we live with (such as flu). Not figures that would, in and of themselves, cause drastic global reactions... Unless we tighten criteria for recording death due only to the virus (as opposed to it being present in those who died from other conditions), the official figures may show a lot more deaths apparently caused by the virus than is actually the case. What then? How do we measure the health consequences of taking people’s lives, jobs, leisure and purpose away from them to protect them from an anticipated threat? Which causes least harm?" www.spectator.co.uk/article/The-evidence-on-Covid-19-is-not-as-clear-as-we-think?fbclid=IwAR3E1y7UCqcYiNOpEr8OBRxRAJiAQFiwHTEB1AALpM42EwaeoybpAsEkJF0
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2020 15:18:17 GMT
It's a scam.
And a practice run for the proper event when people get screwed over completely.
I've always found the money-based society quite intriguing.
There is a general flow of money towards fewer and fewer individuals. You can't eat money or build a castle with it but you can, in theory, enslave others using it and thereby get your food and shelter.
Basic animal instinct is to take as much as possible in order to survive. So it would make sense that those in a position to take money from others by market manipulation among other techniques will do so if they feel threatened.
The obvious problem is that their safety and well-being relies entirely on all the other people.
Or does it?
Maybe in the age of rapid advance of automation a lot of people are basically surplus to requirements.
It seems suspiciously like a social experiment combined with a money-grab.
The funny thing about it is when it comes down to it the money itself is worthless.
Being a human is such a silly situation !!
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Post by bodger on Mar 29, 2020 16:09:01 GMT
Being a human is such a silly situation !! food for thought ...............
has the human race evolved beyond what is necessary and desirable?
are we sowing the seeds of our own destruction? is this nature's way (albeit a rather poor attempt) of rendering us extinct?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2020 16:46:28 GMT
Being a human is such a silly situation !! food for thought ...............
has the human race evolved beyond what is necessary and desirable?
are we sowing the seeds of our own destruction? is this nature's way (albeit a rather poor attempt) of rendering us extinct?
I wouldn't call it a poor attempt, it's more than likely to be a test run.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Mar 29, 2020 17:45:06 GMT
Spoke to my ex. wife earlier, she's a nurse, it's her birthday. She's recovering from the virus. She said you DO NOT want to get this virus, it's horrendous.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2020 17:52:46 GMT
The reaction is to protect the vulnerable and to protect the NHS ... it's never been hidden. Although over 80% will experience mild symptons ... that still leaves a number that would utterly swamp our NHS. It will be good when we can get back to testing on a large scale ... planned to achieve 25,000 tests a day by April. The figures will make more sense then. I find it hard to believe that every country in the world's government are over reacting and Mr Stabby is on the money ... but looking at the leader of the free world and his 'special friend' it's possible Rog
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