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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2020 17:57:21 GMT
Spoke to my ex. wife earlier, she's a nurse, it's her birthday. She's recovering from the virus. She said you DO NOT want to get this virus, it's horrendous. If it's anything like Pneumonia, which is apparently similar, then NO you don't want it if you are in a dodgy position health-wise. It's interesting that people say perfectly healthy younger people get it and die. Yet most people survive it and never need a hospital. Maybe there is some sort of genetic thing going on. I guess a virus must interact differently in all circumstances and the classification of pre existing medical condition is probably very open to interpretation. Loads of people probably have a medical condition but never visit a doctor about it. Some people can deal with high levels of physical stress and not require intervention. Basically if you get it you will probably be ok but might not be. Sounds like the definition of being born.. Most people will survive it okay but some won't. Fortunately most people achieve immunity and are not "born again". It's not unknown but it is incredibly rare.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Mar 29, 2020 18:04:03 GMT
I find it hard to believe that every country in the world's government are over reacting and Mr Stabby is on the money ... but looking at the leader of the free world and his 'special friend' it's possible This does rather pre-suppose that the primary goal of governments is to care for ordinary working people, who they care for and cherish. A cynic might say that imposing the greatest restrictions on civil liberties any of us have ever known in order to temporarily prolong the lives of a small proportion of septuagenarians may have something to do with the vested interests of the pharmaceutical industry in much the same way as the "care" industry battled so valiantly to keep my 86 year old father alive when he so clearly wanted to die.
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Post by naughtyfox on Mar 29, 2020 18:12:52 GMT
Spoke to my ex. wife earlier, she's a nurse, it's her birthday. She's recovering from the virus. She said you DO NOT want to get this virus, it's horrendous. Getting run over by a bus is also probably not very nice. But is there more chance of that than catching Covid-19 and dying from it?
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Post by ianali on Mar 29, 2020 18:16:55 GMT
Spoke to my ex. wife earlier, she's a nurse, it's her birthday. She's recovering from the virus. She said you DO NOT want to get this virus, it's horrendous. Getting run over by a bus is also probably not very nice. But is there more chance of that than catching Covid-19 and dying from it? If your driving, then yes
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Post by naughtyfox on Mar 29, 2020 18:19:14 GMT
I knew someone was going to say that.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2020 18:21:46 GMT
I find it hard to believe that every country in the world's government are over reacting and Mr Stabby is on the money ... butking at the leader of the free world and his 'special friend' it's possible This does rather pre-suppose that the primary goal of governments is to care for ordinary working people, who they care for and cherish. A cynic might say that imposing the greatest restrictions on civil liberties any of us have ever known in order to temporarily prolong the lives of a small proportion of septuagenarians may have something to do with the vested interests of the pharmaceutical industry in much the same way as the "care" industry battled so valiantly to keep my 86 year old father alive when he so clearly wanted to die. But saving old people has never been what this is about has it ? Saving the NHS was the primary goal, coupled with protecting the vulnerable ... like my 18 year old neice who's immune system is shot due to chemotherapy. In twelve months time when, with hindsight, we can look back at this, we can make judgements ... for now I think playing safe makes sense. Rog
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2020 18:22:03 GMT
I know someone who knows someone who got run over by a steam train.
No idea if they had the new-age flu though.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2020 18:23:54 GMT
This does rather pre-suppose that the primary goal of governments is to care for ordinary working people, who they care for and cherish. A cynic might say that imposing the greatest restrictions on civil liberties any of us have ever known in order to temporarily prolong the lives of a small proportion of septuagenarians may have something to do with the vested interests of the pharmaceutical industry in much the same way as the "care" industry battled so valiantly to keep my 86 year old father alive when he so clearly wanted to die. But saving old people has never been what this is about has it ? Saving the NHS was the primary goal, coupled with protecting the vulnerable ... like my 18 year old neice who's immune system is shot due to chemotherapy. In twelve months time when, with hindsight, we can look back at this, we dan make judgements ... for now I think playing safe makes sense. Rog Saving the NHS* or avoiding exposing the damage done to public services by a long standing Tory government? I don't know as I'm non political but one does have to wonder about it. Who is trying to protect who and why? For some unknown reason I do not believe that random members of the public are part of this story. *Actually if you look at it the term is "protect the NHS" not "Save the NHS". The conspiracy theorist in me says it would be quite handy for some people if the UK national health service was irreparably damaged. I can see some vultures around.
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Post by naughtyfox on Mar 29, 2020 18:38:31 GMT
This does rather pre-suppose that the primary goal of governments is to care for ordinary working people, who they care for and cherish. A cynic might say that imposing the greatest restrictions on civil liberties any of us have ever known in order to temporarily prolong the lives of a small proportion of septuagenarians may have something to do with the vested interests of the pharmaceutical industry in much the same way as the "care" industry battled so valiantly to keep my 86 year old father alive when he so clearly wanted to die. ... for now I think playing safe makes sense. The comments from Spain and Italy saying 'You must wake up, you don't know what's coming to you - we do!' are hard to simply dismiss. They do seem to be overwhelmed by the 'spike' in deaths. I advocate this quarantine approach, so long as it is temporary - as this is something that has not been tried before in the history of Mankind, it will provide some kind of results.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Mar 29, 2020 18:44:03 GMT
This does rather pre-suppose that the primary goal of governments is to care for ordinary working people, who they care for and cherish. A cynic might say that imposing the greatest restrictions on civil liberties any of us have ever known in order to temporarily prolong the lives of a small proportion of septuagenarians may have something to do with the vested interests of the pharmaceutical industry in much the same way as the "care" industry battled so valiantly to keep my 86 year old father alive when he so clearly wanted to die. In twelve months time when, with hindsight, we can look back at this, we can make judgements ... for now I think playing safe makes sense. Fine up to a point, but we both know that in twelve months time the lentil-knitting lefties will be saying "It's all the Tories' fault that unemployment is at five million and all those businesses went bust/ homes got repossessed etc etc etc" Anyway, I'm off to Halfords tomorrow to pick up my Click and Collect order, a can of grey primer and a can of silver wheel paint to start painting my Rover's wheels which I've been prepping last week.. My logic is that if they didn't want me to buy it then they wouldn't have sold it to me, plus I'm helping to keep their staff in work. And I have to have something to do to pass the time.
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Post by bills on Mar 29, 2020 18:45:45 GMT
Spoke to my ex. wife earlier, she's a nurse, it's her birthday. She's recovering from the virus. She said you DO NOT want to get this virus, it's horrendous. Was she actually tested?
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Post by metanoia on Mar 29, 2020 18:50:23 GMT
This does rather pre-suppose that the primary goal of governments is to care for ordinary working people, who they care for and cherish. A cynic might say that imposing the greatest restrictions on civil liberties any of us have ever known in order to temporarily prolong the lives of a small proportion of septuagenarians may have something to do with the vested interests of the pharmaceutical industry in much the same way as the "care" industry battled so valiantly to keep my 86 year old father alive when he so clearly wanted to die. But saving old people has never been what this is about has it ? Saving the NHS was the primary goal, coupled with protecting the vulnerable ... like my 18 year old neice who's immune system is shot due to chemotherapy. In twelve months time when, with hindsight, we can look back at this, we can make judgements ... for now I think playing safe makes sense. Rog That's why, to be honest, I'm shocked and surprised you two never went home when you had somewhere to go before this hit. Somewhere with your own doctors, hospitals and the services where you live, work, your own home and community. Have you ever seen how very small Leighton (the local) hospital is?
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Post by TonyDunkley on Mar 29, 2020 19:04:23 GMT
I don't doubt for a moment that we are all exposed to some globetrotting strain of a flu-type bug - probably the one that's been labelled as the Covid-19 virus - and that it's a particularly nasty one with the potential to kill off higher numbers of people than the usual run of the mill Winter flu bugs we get every year. But I do have serious doubts that this bug, or something very closely related, hasn't done the rounds in the UK and probably most of the rest of the world before.
I am also becoming more and more uneasy by the day that the governments of most of the countries affected by the Covid-19 virus outbreak, including our own in the UK, are treating it as a heaven sent opportunity to test the extent to which totalitarian forms of general governmental control can be imposed on a population which has been thoroughly 'softened-up' by a barrage of Government inspired media scare-mongering.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2020 19:06:52 GMT
I don't doubt for a moment that we are all exposed to some globetrotting strain of a flu-type bug - probably the one that's been labelled as the Covid-19 virus - and that it's a particularly nasty one with the potential to kill off higher numbers of people than the usual run of the mill Winter flu bugs we get every year. But I do have serious doubts that this bug, or something very closely related, hasn't done the rounds in the UK and probably most of the rest of the world before. I am also becoming more and more uneasy by the day that the governments of most of the countries affected by the Covid-19 virus outbreak, including our own in the UK, are treating it as a heaven sent opportunity to test the extent to which totalitarian forms of general governmental control can be imposed on a population which has been thoroughly 'softened-up' by a barrage of Government inspired media scare-mongering. Third time you have posted this. Are you ok?
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Post by Mr Stabby on Mar 29, 2020 19:11:41 GMT
I don't doubt for a moment that we are all exposed to some globetrotting strain of a flu-type bug - probably the one that's been labelled as the Covid-19 virus - and that it's a particularly nasty one with the potential to kill off higher numbers of people than the usual run of the mill Winter flu bugs we get every year. But I do have serious doubts that this bug, or something very closely related, hasn't done the rounds in the UK and probably most of the rest of the world before. I am also becoming more and more uneasy by the day that the governments of most of the countries affected by the Covid-19 virus outbreak, including our own in the UK, are treating it as a heaven sent opportunity to test the extent to which totalitarian forms of general governmental control can be imposed on a population which has been thoroughly 'softened-up' by a barrage of Government inspired media scare-mongering. Blimey! I never thought I'd live to see the day when I would totally agree with something Tony Dunkley said!
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