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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2020 6:58:52 GMT
Well its true that retrieving the racing mark from the channel is one of my least-favourite tasks. The ground gear is blummin heavy. But we just pull on the rope. No winch.
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Post by JohnV on Mar 28, 2020 7:15:10 GMT
Well its true that retrieving the racing mark from the channel is one of my least-favourite tasks. The ground gear is blummin heavy. But we just pull on the rope. No winch. Sabina's original anchor was a 220lb Admiralty pattern stockless with a matching size chain and a handraulic winch It was no surprise when I fitted a 150lb CQR and an electric winch
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2020 7:26:14 GMT
Maybe a job for an easylass geared windlass.
If you can find one. Or make one.
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Post by kris on Mar 28, 2020 8:06:07 GMT
I’ve got the original windlass, the winch works fine manually. Although it could do with a brake band making. I’m looking for ideas to motorise it?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2020 8:07:44 GMT
I’ve got the original windlass, the winch works fine manually. Although it could do with a brake band making. I’m looking for ideas to motorise it? If you used a gear motor like I suggested earlier you could make a direction change box with relays and have power up and power down. That would take out the need for a clutch but would mean the anchor would drop quite slowly.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2020 8:09:43 GMT
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Post by kris on Mar 28, 2020 8:10:33 GMT
I’ve got the original windlass, the winch works fine manually. Although it could do with a brake band making. I’m looking for ideas to motorise it? If you used a gear motor like I suggested earlier you could make a direction change box with relays and have power up and power down. That would take out the need for a clutch but would mean the anchor would drop quite slowly. it doesn’t really matter about dropping slowly. I’ll see if I can find a cog to fit. I’ve got an electrical motor that might do the job.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Mar 28, 2020 20:19:43 GMT
These are some pictures of my anchor winch. I have bought another anchor that I intend to dangle off the front and use the winch to lower or raise it. I intend to motorise the winch, so that it can be operated from the tiller. Has anybody got any good ideas? For motorising it. i.postimg.cc/1zN0qg7X/54165-E8-E-5-C79-4223-85-F1-CFDABADB0-D57.jpgBefore converting that winch to power operation you'll need to install a chain pipe directly below the after side of the gypsy to lead the cable below decks, preferably into either a purpose made chain locker or a steel container big enough to hold all of it. With the chain left to fall onto the deck plating whilst recovering the anchor, as it appears to do in the photo, it will quickly build up into a high enough heap to lift itself out of the gypsy and run out again.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2020 20:27:04 GMT
Good point.
The question which arises is how to drain the chain locker bearing in mind water will get in.
I suppose one option would be weld in a cut-up 13kg gas bottle under the deck and arrange for a drain to a skin fitting somewhere.
Without suitable drainage any locker is quickly going to end up very damp and rust would start going quite fast.
How is this normally done on the big barges?
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Post by TonyDunkley on Mar 28, 2020 21:26:39 GMT
Good point. The question which arises is how to drain the chain locker bearing in mind water will get in. I suppose one option would be weld in a cut-up 13kg gas bottle under the deck and arrange for a drain to a skin fitting somewhere. Without suitable drainage any locker is quickly going to end up very damp and rust would start going quite fast. How is this normally done on the big barges? There wouldn't be space enough for much length of chain of the size (looks like 3/8") in the photo in a 13 Kg gas bottle. The chain locker on commercials, on everything from 'Sheffield' or similar sizes up to the likes of the 600-tonners that were built in the last few years of Harkers yard at Knottingley, was always arranged to drain directly into the fore-peak bilge. In practice, the anchor was very rarely, if ever, put to any use on motor barges, but they still got water down the locker chain pipes past the slotted covers when it was either pissing down with rain, or if a loaded barge was tending to bury her head in bad conditions in the Humber. Quite frankly, considering the number of times he's likely to ever use it, I really don't understand why Kris is proposing to waste time, effort and money converting a completely unsuitable winch to power operation, and then still being left with the task of having to modify the layout of the installation to eliminate any trace of side strain on the winch from the chain/cable.
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Post by JohnV on Mar 29, 2020 7:49:25 GMT
I'm not sure I totally agree with the last part of that Tony, Venturing out onto a large bit of tidal river where there is very little in the way of safe laybys, having good ground gear and the ability to recover it is quite reassuring
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Post by kris on Mar 29, 2020 10:04:08 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2020 10:09:30 GMT
That's a bit of a beast!
If you had room and space to fit the chain in it might be quite good.
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Post by kris on Mar 29, 2020 10:17:26 GMT
That's a bit of a beast! If you had room and space to fit the chain in it might be quite good. I think it’s a bit too big I could do with the size down I reckon. I can fit the chain in and already thought about a “chain locker”
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2020 10:20:49 GMT
Can't help but wonder...do you need chain for the entire length?
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