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Post by thebfg on May 9, 2020 1:23:08 GMT
"64% want transition extended ‘until the crisis is resolved" So much for democracy. Its a bit more than 52.000000000001%. 64% of what? I'm surprised at this thread, I'd have thought you would wait for it to be extended and then used it for Tory bashing. I've no thoughts either way. They will or they won't. If we are settling in for the long haul with lockdown/social distancing and the virus, I think at some point life still has to carry on.
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Post by Jim on May 9, 2020 8:01:29 GMT
"64% want transition extended ‘until the crisis is resolved" So much for democracy. Its a bit more than 52.000000000001%. 64% of what? I'm surprised at this thread, I'd have thought you would wait for it to be extended and then used it for Tory bashing. I've no thoughts either way. They will or they won't. If we are settling in for the long haul with lockdown/social distancing and the virus, I think at some point life still has to carry on. The people surveyed. Keep up lad.
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Post by lollygagger on May 9, 2020 8:22:31 GMT
A spot survey here in the marina indicates 100% in favour of leaving right now with no deal.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2020 8:45:30 GMT
64% of what? I'm surprised at this thread, I'd have thought you would wait for it to be extended and then used it for Tory bashing. I've no thoughts either way. They will or they won't. If we are settling in for the long haul with lockdown/social distancing and the virus, I think at some point life still has to carry on. The people surveyed. Keep up lad. I think you're looking at the wrong data Jim. The poll below asks the direct question you're searching for (scroll down to the bottom for latest April 2020 poll). whatukthinks.org/eu/questions/if-there-was-a-referendum-on-britains-membership-of-the-eu-how-would-you-vote-2/?notesSo basically it's still very close with the Tory voters being the main leave element and Labour being the main remain element. What's also interesting is the large number of young voters who want to stay in the EU. The same young who are working hard to keep us old gits fed during this Corona episode.
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Post by Jim on May 9, 2020 8:52:08 GMT
The people surveyed. Keep up lad. I think you're looking at the wrong data Jim. The poll below asks the direct question you're searching for (scroll down to the bottom for latest April 2020 poll). whatukthinks.org/eu/questions/if-there-was-a-referendum-on-britains-membership-of-the-eu-how-would-you-vote-2/?notesSo basically it's still very close with the Tory voters being the main leave element and Labour being the main remain element. What's also interesting is the large number of young voters who want to stay in the EU. The same young who are working hard to keep us old gits fed during this Corona episode. You've quoted a poll on a different question. What a reward for the hard working young ones. Old gits leave EU, old gits die, young uns have to go through the trouble of rejoining. Perhaps old gits should just put up with it for a little while, till they die, save everyone the bother.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2020 9:10:24 GMT
I think you're looking at the wrong data Jim. The poll below asks the direct question you're searching for (scroll down to the bottom for latest April 2020 poll). whatukthinks.org/eu/questions/if-there-was-a-referendum-on-britains-membership-of-the-eu-how-would-you-vote-2/?notesSo basically it's still very close with the Tory voters being the main leave element and Labour being the main remain element. What's also interesting is the large number of young voters who want to stay in the EU. The same young who are working hard to keep us old gits fed during this Corona episode. You've quoted a poll on a different question. ....but it's the poll you really want the answer to. Why scratch around the surface with polls on extensions? Maybe our younger generation will produce leaders we can trust, who care, who do the job for the benefit of all not just for their career. Then maybe we can think about the EU or even a world government. Do you think Corbyn would have coped better than Boris in this Corona crisis?
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Post by Jim on May 9, 2020 9:21:18 GMT
You've quoted a poll on a different question. ....but it's the poll you really want the answer to. Why scratch around the surface with polls on extensions? Maybe our younger generation will produce leaders we can trust, who care, who do the job for the benefit of all not just for their career. Then maybe we can think about the EU or even a world government. Do you think Corbyn would have coped better than Boris in this Corona crisis? Jezzer filled the criteria you mentioned, admirably. He could hardly have done a worse job, could he. Here's some of the Collected Sayings of Bozzer for you. m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=3194041340606258&id=593116884032063
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Post by peterboat on May 9, 2020 10:21:12 GMT
A spot survey here in the marina indicates 100% in favour of leaving right now with no deal. Same amongst people I know are the same they just dont want to get caught up with the ginormous bills trying to sort out the EU virus bill! They would bleed us dry and fish the seas to extinction around our coast
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2020 19:49:02 GMT
You Know it makes sense. Extend Transition: Focus on beating the Coronavirus Deadline to agree EU transition extension is 30th June. UPDATE 21st April 2020: 64% want transition extended ‘until the crisis is resolved’ The British people have made their priorities clear. A large majority of the public want the government focused entirely on the crisis at hand, shown by Best for Britain's latest polling. Trade bodies, the Scottish and Welsh governments, and the IMF Managing Director have all urged the government to do the right thing and seek an extension. Extending transition to allow the UK to focus on Coronavirus is also supported by 44% of Conservative voters, as well as over a quarter of Brexit Party voters. Add your name to the petition now, add your support for keeping our priorities clear and fixing Coronavirus first. Invisible enemy We are at war with an invisible enemy. We must all fully support the government in working to protect people and businesses. Given that Public Health England suggests up to 80% of us could get sick, it is absolutely right that the government mantra is that it will do ‘Whatever It Takes’. What we cannot do is tackle this global crisis while simultaneously trying to replace all our existing trading relationships. Sign below to commit your support to reports that the government is considering extending the transition period www.bestforbritain.org/transition-coronavirus?utm_campaign=20may5_inactive_5&utm_medium=email&utm_source=b4bYou lost on Brexit, you lost the election, you lost the voters, finally, you've even lost the plot. Brexit is done, and given the complete and utter failure of the eu with recent issues, I for one will be glad to see the back of the greedy power hungry elite, that oddly enough is supported by the leftwaffe and yourself. There's nowt thicker than a lefty thick.
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Post by IainS on May 9, 2020 20:17:19 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2020 20:33:41 GMT
Whaling, once upon a time, was a relatively fair fight. A sailing ship went out in search of whales, and if it found some they were hunted by gangs of men in dinghies. But when it became an industry, and ships were powered by diesel engines, and the hand-thrown harpoon was dropped for a cannon-like device, extinction was assured. Amazingly, enough people realised the inevitability of it all before the end.
Commercial fishing is an activity where all who participate in it are interested in one thing only - how much money they can extract from it.
Consider the recent effects of the cessation of traffic on pollution levels. Who wants to argue that a cessation of commercial fishing would not see a rebound of fish populations within a space of time as little as (say) a generation?
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2020 21:44:22 GMT
Going back to the OP, I still believe the solution is to move the pendulum back towards localisation rather than globalisation. The EU is just one more step towards a global government which I think would be dangerous with humanities previous record.
The environment also suffers because globalisation means that so much has to travel long distances. It's so inefficient. I hope one thing we have learnt over the last 6 weeks is that we don't need as much as we thought to survive and how reliant we are on our LOCAL community.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2020 22:28:16 GMT
Globalisation? Er, do you have the right thread?
PS the correct usage here is 'humanity's'
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2020 22:58:38 GMT
Globalisation? Er, do you have the right thread? PS the correct usage here is 'humanity's' I see just because you can't be a moderator here you have to resort to typos.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2020 23:32:23 GMT
Anyway, any worries about being nice to the neighbours too much are irrelevant because we are probably on the brink of the worst recession for almost exactly a century. Let's hope that the event that brings us out of it is not also similar to the last time.
Also maybe if the world market for hardwood and 'biomass' collapses as a result then perhaps the Bolivians and the Brazilians will stop destroying the rain-forests quite so quickly. I always thought that sort of thing is what globalisation is really about.
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