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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2020 9:44:10 GMT
The anchor I have (came with the boat) is roughly 2ft by 3ft, too big to comfortably site in the well deck when on canals without often being in the way hence normally is on part of the roof that is not required for single handing. It will go in the well deck for rivers but any access to the gas locker and fore 'dolly thingy' is slightly compromised without stubbing yourself on it.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2020 19:19:16 GMT
The chain I have is about 15ft long but the links are only 6mm diameter - any thoughts whether this would be ok or not?
Lines - what length lines are recommended at bow and stern? - I seem to remember that you can't just use a centre line in the locks.
I would say the chain is insufficiently weighty. Imagine chain that has links of 4 inches in width or thereabouts. Other opinions to follow... Thames lock rules require a line at both ends. Sandford Lock has the deepest fall at 8 feet 10 inches. Since you are normally requested to remain on the boat, you need double the maximum length - in this case 18 feet plus probably about another six feet for a working 'tail' so you may as well say a minimum of 25ft per line.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2020 19:24:36 GMT
The anchor I have (came with the boat) is roughly 2ft by 3ft, too big to comfortably site in the well deck when on canals without often being in the way hence normally is on part of the roof that is not required for single handing. It will go in the well deck for rivers but any access to the gas locker and fore 'dolly thingy' is slightly compromised without stubbing yourself on it.
Honestly, it seems entirely unsuitable. It has to stow comfortably somewhere or you'll just hate it till one day it gets deep-sixed. Rog's solution sounds good - out of the way and always on hand. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VERY-LARGE-HEAVY-GALVANISED-GRAPNEL-ANCHOR-12-KGS-GOOD-CONDITION-AS-PHOTOS-SHOW-/174091971361?_trksid=p2385738.m4383.l4275.c10
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2020 19:32:04 GMT
If you are going to all the bother, have some kind of system where it is ready to deploy for the times that you might actually need it. Scrabbling about in a locker in a hurry is probably a waste of effort. So maybe some kind of tub that can live in the fore-deck when you are on a river. Incidentally, in an emergency, if you chuck the anchor in then this is likely to have the effect of swinging the boat around (assuming it was moving in a bow-first course to begin with). This may prove interesting in itself so practising using it in a hurry is probably worth it. The anchor is too big for a locker - won't even go through the hatch for the gas locker, so will be moved from the roof to the foredeck (and attached to the boat) when on the river. Practising actually deploying the anchor will happen if I have someone else onboard who has at least as much experience as me. AS MM pointed out, the current on most of the Thames is really quite gentle. The only real problem is potentially hitting another boat. So do any testing early one non-windy morning on a deserted stretch. I'm betting the most difficult part will be recovery.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2020 21:12:02 GMT
The anchor I have (came with the boat) is roughly 2ft by 3ft, too big to comfortably site in the well deck when on canals without often being in the way hence normally is on part of the roof that is not required for single handing. It will go in the well deck for rivers but any access to the gas locker and fore 'dolly thingy' is slightly compromised without stubbing yourself on it.
Honestly, it seems entirely unsuitable. It has to stow comfortably somewhere or you'll just hate it till one day it gets deep-sixed. Rog's solution sounds good - out of the way and always on hand. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VERY-LARGE-HEAVY-GALVANISED-GRAPNEL-ANCHOR-12-KGS-GOOD-CONDITION-AS-PHOTOS-SHOW-/174091971361?_trksid=p2385738.m4383.l4275.c10I've got no intention of buying another anchor. Thanks for the other thoughts though.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2020 22:46:05 GMT
I've got no intention of buying another anchor. Thanks for the other thoughts though. Its your call. You could sell the existing one too.
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Post by naughtyfox on May 31, 2020 3:39:03 GMT
The anchor is too big for a locker - won't even go through the hatch for the gas locker, so will be moved from the roof to the foredeck (and attached to the boat) when on the river. Practising actually deploying the anchor will happen if I have someone else onboard who has at least as much experience as me. the current on most of the Thames is really quite gentle. The only real problem is potentially hitting another boat. "he has his tiller pushed away from him which aims his narrowboat at our bow. He is still in forward gear" "he had a full 42 seconds from knowing that we had claimed the mooring to the collision." indeed, if you look at his arm it is held out to the right which means the boat WILL turn to the left.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2020 8:27:28 GMT
Sorry naughtyfox ... what's the relevance of repeating that story ... is it just because the Thames was mentioned ? I claim no credit for our anchor arrangement ... supplied with boat same as @blacksheep 's. It's been fine for fifteen years, but only gets wet when we wash the well deck Like any form of insurance I suppose, its value can only be truly measured after use. Rog
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Post by TonyDunkley on May 31, 2020 10:23:39 GMT
The anchor I have (came with the boat) is roughly 2ft by 3ft, too big to comfortably site in the well deck when on canals without often being in the way hence normally is on part of the roof that is not required for single handing. It will go in the well deck for rivers but any access to the gas locker and fore 'dolly thingy' is slightly compromised without stubbing yourself on it.
Can you post photo's of the anchor, chain, and ropes you've already got aboard, and one of both ends of your boat, . . including the forard tee-stud and the dollies on the stern end ?
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2020 10:30:57 GMT
The anchor I have (came with the boat) is roughly 2ft by 3ft, too big to comfortably site in the well deck when on canals without often being in the way hence normally is on part of the roof that is not required for single handing. It will go in the well deck for rivers but any access to the gas locker and fore 'dolly thingy' is slightly compromised without stubbing yourself on it.
Can you post photo's of the anchor, chain, and ropes you've already got aboard, and one of both ends of your boat, . . including the forard tee-stud and the dollies on the stern end ? Will try to do tomorrow (I expect lots of comments about peeling paint etc but I'll ignore those...).
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Post by naughtyfox on May 31, 2020 12:05:55 GMT
Sorry naughtyfox ... what's the relevance of repeating that story ... is it just because the Thames was mentioned ? Yes. Nemesis mentioned hitting boats on the Thames and that example came to mind. To warn of the dangers of bad-tempered old psychopaths.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2020 14:38:28 GMT
test can people see this picture?
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Post by patty on Jun 1, 2020 14:59:49 GMT
test can people see this picture? I can...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2020 15:16:52 GMT
Oh yes.
And that anchor is about twice the size of ours.
Rog
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2020 15:21:47 GMT
The anchor I have (came with the boat) is roughly 2ft by 3ft, too big to comfortably site in the well deck when on canals without often being in the way hence normally is on part of the roof that is not required for single handing. It will go in the well deck for rivers but any access to the gas locker and fore 'dolly thingy' is slightly compromised without stubbing yourself on it.
Can you post photo's of the anchor, chain, and ropes you've already got aboard, and one of both ends of your boat, . . including the forard tee-stud and the dollies on the stern end ? Lines
Photo here of main ones 14mm in diameter all in good condition.
1 x 50ft 1 x 45ft 1 x 35ft 1 x 30ft 2 x 25ft
Other blue line photo here 10mm dia getting fairly old but is fine for normal mooring
Chain
15ft in length
6mm diameter of metal
2 inch chain link length.
Front T stud
Rear dollies
Anchor
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