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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2020 10:29:48 GMT
The media & the left have a lot to answer for. Luckily there is a thing called the ballot box and their vision of life keeps getting defeated by ordinary decent people ...
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Post by Jim on Jun 6, 2020 10:52:22 GMT
Of course some of us who have moved on realise that kindness doesn't end at the limits of enforced sharing via taxation and the feeling of entitlement when in receipt. Kindness can be measured in terms other than financial. Taxation with representation is the only fair way. The sense of entitlement is a separate issue, don't conflate the two. There's also the sense of entitlement to tax avoidance by the greedy and overly wealthy. Many people will not make a contribution to society without being prompted or required too. Many pay their tax and also do more for society on top of that. Your tag line anarchy with responsibility is a youthful ideal, have you not moved on yet😂
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Post by Jim on Jun 6, 2020 11:20:40 GMT
The media & the left have a lot to answer for. Luckily there is a thing called the ballot box and their vision of life keeps getting defeated by ordinary decent people ... For once we agree.
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Post by Jim on Jun 6, 2020 11:23:12 GMT
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Post by Clinton Cool on Jun 6, 2020 11:24:10 GMT
Of course some of us who have moved on realise that kindness doesn't end at the limits of enforced sharing via taxation and the feeling of entitlement when in receipt. Kindness can be measured in terms other than financial. Taxation with representation is the only fair way. The sense of entitlement is a separate issue, don't conflate the two. There's also the sense of entitlement to tax avoidance by the greedy and overly wealthy. Many people will not make a contribution to society without being prompted or required too. Many pay their tax and also do more for society on top of that. Your tag line anarchy with responsibility is a youthful ideal, have you not moved on yet😂 In my case, in my youth, there were no thoughts as to anarchy, I was only interested in making money and shagging as many girls as possible. My development into being a libertarian/ humanist (non-socialist) has been a slow progressive one based on my experience that the greatest joy from life comes from being free and to give and receive kindness voluntarily. To me, the thought of large governments and institutions marching onwards with their segmentation of society into the worthy, less worthy, and the none worthy twinned with ever growing regulation and forced sharing between the segmented groups fills me with horror. Mine is a humanist argument twinned with a 'born free' disregard for the need for humans to be over organised by zealous governments with hidden agendas.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2020 11:28:55 GMT
Reminds me a bit of that scene in "Little miss sunshine"
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2020 14:00:34 GMT
The media & the left have a lot to answer for. Luckily there is a thing called the ballot box and their vision of life keeps getting defeated by ordinary decent people ... Here's part of a speech given by an 'ordinary decent' man to a bunch of similarly-minded people: "Most of you will know what it means when 100 bodies lie together, when 500 are there or when there are 1000. And . . . to have seen this through and—with the exception of human weakness—to have remained decent, has made us hard and is a page of glory never mentioned and never to be mentioned." (Heinrich Himmler, Posen 1943)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2020 14:45:59 GMT
The media & the left have a lot to answer for. Luckily there is a thing called the ballot box and their vision of life keeps getting defeated by ordinary decent people ... Here's part of a speech given by an 'ordinary decent' man to a bunch of similarly-minded people: "Most of you will know what it means when 100 bodies lie together, when 500 are there or when there are 1000. And . . . to have seen this through and—with the exception of human weakness—to have remained decent, has made us hard and is a page of glory never mentioned and never to be mentioned." (Heinrich Himmler, Posen 1943) Idiot.
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Post by JohnV on Jun 6, 2020 14:54:46 GMT
the road to hell may be paved in with intentions but travelling it is often started with tiny baby steps
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2020 15:31:52 GMT
the road to hell may be paved in with intentions but travelling it is often started with tiny baby steps It is easier for a rich man to pass through the eye of a needle than it is for a camel to.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2020 17:19:29 GMT
Fuckin idiots in London this afternoon with signs stating "I grew up not liking the police". These people are complete twats. These demonstrations have fack all to do with the guy being killed in America.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Jun 6, 2020 17:32:43 GMT
Fuckin idiots in London this afternoon with signs stating "I grew up not liking the police". These people are complete twats. These demonstrations have fack all to do with the guy being killed in America. This should be no surprise. Their mother, or father, would have taught them this when they were very small. Not both of them though, the chances of them being together post-birth are vanishingly small.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2020 17:47:30 GMT
Having spent much of my life living in London, I'm fully aware of the issues it suffers. Stop and search being one. It got to a point where the police were accused of being racist for enforcing the procedure. Those of us living in London were well aware of why stop and search was an issue for these people. Scotland yard even had to form a squad to specifically deal with the problems these people were creating. Although that squad has now been disbanded, it doesn't hide the fact that the problem still exists. In my book, you reap what you sow, and it is sad that innocents sometimes get caught up, but that's the way it spans out.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2020 18:10:44 GMT
Having spent much of my life living in London, I'm fully aware of the issues it suffers. Stop and search being one. It got to a point where the police were accused of being racist for enforcing the procedure. Those of us living in London were well aware of why stop and search was an issue for these people. Scotland yard even had to form a squad to specifically deal with the problems these people were creating. Although that squad has now been disbanded, it doesn't hide the fact that the problem still exists. In my book, you reap what you sow, and it is sad that innocents sometimes get caught up, but that's the way it spans out. Which squad are you referring to?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2020 18:12:36 GMT
Having spent much of my life living in London, I'm fully aware of the issues it suffers. Stop and search being one. It got to a point where the police were accused of being racist for enforcing the procedure. Those of us living in London were well aware of why stop and search was an issue for these people. Scotland yard even had to form a squad to specifically deal with the problems these people were creating. Although that squad has now been disbanded, it doesn't hide the fact that the problem still exists. In my book, you reap what you sow, and it is sad that innocents sometimes get caught up, but that's the way it spans out. Yes, the much-maligned SPG. After all they were just doing their job. Be honest everyone, the suss laws were really quite understated in their lenient approach. After all, we all know that any darkie looks guilty and a law that could send someone to chokey solely on the basis of an officer's suspicions with no other evidence whatsoever (even that of an offence actually having been committed somewhere) was entirely rational. And they had the cheek to riot. Bloody immigrants. "One of the SPG's most controversial incidents came in 1979, while officers were policing a protest by the Anti-Nazi League in Southall. During a running battle, demonstrator Blair Peach was struck on the head and died as a result of his injuries; at the time it was alleged to have been an action of the SPG. In the inquiries which followed, a variety of unauthorised weapons were found in the possession of SPG officers, including baseball bats, crowbars and sledgehammers." (Wiki) And as for the Oval Four travesty - that Derek Ridgewell died in prison you know. Bloody scandalous.
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