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Post by TonyDunkley on Aug 3, 2020 7:40:15 GMT
What damage gently coming to a stop on a pile of sand and silt would be done to the steel baseplate? We have been told countless times that baseplates are almost never blacked for the reason they often scrape along the bottom of canals and the blacking would simply wear off. That's right, . . no risk of any damage at all from grounding on sand, silt, or gravel . . unlike the very real risk of serious damage to both hull and sterngear that comes with every trip through the nearby Nottingham/Beeston canal section bouncing and scraping over all the brick-ends, lumps of concrete, re-bar, stillages, gas stoves, and all the rest of the junk typically found in the bottom of any urban canal, with a 14' beam boat drawing 3' 3" and, with the fixed ballast he's got in it, probably displacing upwards of around 40 tons. I think the genuine reasons for Kris's reluctance to coerce C&RT into meeting their statutory obligations must be looked for elsewhere. As things stand at present with his boat at Beeston, the Trent impassably shallow for it a mere mile or so upriver at Barton Island, 5 miles of shallow and junk filled canal between him and the next impassably silted up lock tail at Stoke Bardolph, a little over 4 miles downriver from the canal section, he appears to be strangely content with the 10 and a bit miles of waterway C&RT are making available to him in return for the £600(+) per year he's paying them for one of their phony 'Rivers only Licences'.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 8:18:36 GMT
. . . . . . I’d just like to remind everyone that cart are responsible for dredging the navigation, not myself. Nothing to the contrary has been posted in this thread, or elsewhere ! It was simply suggested that you take your boat - which needs a good 9" LESS than the draught to which C&RT are obliged to maintain the Trent above Nottingham under the Transport Act of 1968 and the 2012 C&RT/Defra MoU - along the river between Cranfleet and Beeston Locks. With the river presently down to normal Summer levels, and NO dredging done to remove sand and silt deposited by last Winter's floods, it's pretty certain that you would ground in the little that's left of the MNC across the now extensive shoal topside of Barton Island. Your reaction to this, consisting only of irrelevancies and hysterics about 'caring' for your boat too much to risk grounding it on a sandbank, does you no credit, . . and now you're ducking the question about the outcome of the conversation that YOU stated your intention of having with C&RT some two weeks ago with regard to their failure to meet the 1968 TA maintenance obligations. this post just shows what kind of person you are..
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Post by TonyDunkley on Aug 3, 2020 8:28:28 GMT
Nothing to the contrary has been posted in this thread, or elsewhere ! It was simply suggested that you take your boat - which needs a good 9" LESS than the draught to which C&RT are obliged to maintain the Trent above Nottingham under the Transport Act of 1968 and the 2012 C&RT/Defra MoU - along the river between Cranfleet and Beeston Locks. With the river presently down to normal Summer levels, and NO dredging done to remove sand and silt deposited by last Winter's floods, it's pretty certain that you would ground in the little that's left of the MNC across the now extensive shoal topside of Barton Island. Your reaction to this, consisting only of irrelevancies and hysterics about 'caring' for your boat too much to risk grounding it on a sandbank, does you no credit, . . and now you're ducking the question about the outcome of the conversation that YOU stated your intention of having with C&RT some two weeks ago with regard to their failure to meet the 1968 TA maintenance obligations. this post just shows what kind of person you are.. Really ! Care to elaborate on that ?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 8:48:10 GMT
Come on Tony you are so keen for someone to make a stand about dredging why don't you take one of your boats down there and stick it on the shoal?
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Post by TonyDunkley on Aug 3, 2020 9:12:05 GMT
Come on Tony you are so keen for someone to make a stand about dredging why don't you take one of your boats down there and stick it on the shoal? I would already have done so, . . if I'd still got anything drawing over 3' that could get above Nottingham. The ideal thing would have been the ex-BWB Bucket Dredger -BD1- which I sold nearly six years ago. With the buckets fully lifted and the tower fully lowered it would just fit through the canal in Nottingham, and floated in about 3' 6''.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 9:37:28 GMT
No one with any sense will be deliberately grounding their home to make a 'political point'. I understood your legal battle with C&RT TonyDunkley was forced upon you by C&RT and not as a result of you leading any kind of protest. Rog
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 9:45:46 GMT
this post just shows what kind of person you are.. Really ! Care to elaborate on that ? Suggesting someone grounds a boat/home to make a point is ok in your mind?
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Post by kris on Aug 3, 2020 9:48:07 GMT
Really ! Care to elaborate on that ? Suggesting someone grounds a boat/home to make a point is ok in your mind? Not only suggesting, but trying to bully and badger someone else into it.
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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 3, 2020 10:06:25 GMT
"she did it purely to draw attention to the inequality between men and women and how women deserve the vote and the freedom of speech. Say all you want that she was “mad” or “crazy” but her sacrifice made a huge difference in society and why things the way they are today."
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Post by kris on Aug 3, 2020 10:11:33 GMT
"she did it purely to draw attention to the inequality between men and women and how women deserve the vote and the freedom of speech. Say all you want that she was “mad” or “crazy” but her sacrifice made a huge difference in society and why things the way they are today." No one will complain, if you choose to throw yourself under the bus foxy.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 10:27:04 GMT
"she did it purely to draw attention to the inequality between men and women and how women deserve the vote and the freedom of speech. Say all you want that she was “mad” or “crazy” but her sacrifice made a huge difference in society and why things the way they are today."Says the man who tells everyone else to write to CRT and complain, but never does himself.
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Post by kris on Aug 3, 2020 10:28:38 GMT
"she did it purely to draw attention to the inequality between men and women and how women deserve the vote and the freedom of speech. Say all you want that she was “mad” or “crazy” but her sacrifice made a huge difference in society and why things the way they are today."Says the man who tells everyone else to write to CRT and complain, but never does himself. How do you know I “never” do? Just because I don’t post my communications with cart in a public forum doesn’t mean they don’t happen.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 10:29:45 GMT
Says the man who tells everyone else to write to CRT and complain, but never does himself. How do you know I “never” do? Just because I don’t post my communications with cart in a public forum doesn’t mean they don’t happen. might want to look to see who I quoted...
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Post by kris on Aug 3, 2020 10:31:17 GMT
How do you know I “never” do? Just because I don’t post my communications with cart in a public forum doesn’t mean they don’t happen. might want to look to see who I quoted... whoops sorry, I got a notification that you had quoted me. For some strange reason.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Aug 3, 2020 10:35:41 GMT
No one with any sense will be deliberately grounding their home to make a 'political point'. I understood your legal battle with C&RT TonyDunkley was forced upon you by C&RT and not as a result of you leading any kind of protest. Rog As someone who sticks to boating on canals, in preference to rivers, in a boat which your live on for a good part of every year, isn't 'grounding' your 'home' something you do on a regular basis, . . both whilst on the move, and frequently whilst tied up for the night ? As for your 'understanding' of what you call my 'legal battle' with C&RT, . . well, no, they didn't force anything on me. The present, and as yet unresolved, claim they're pursuing is a direct consequence of my long standing refusal to buy one of their phony Rivers only Licences on the grounds that they have neither common law nor statutory powers to 'licence' the use of any vessel on a PRN river waterway. Would you define that as something other than a protest ?
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