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Post by NigelMoore on Jul 22, 2020 6:58:42 GMT
Victor Waddington, of barge operators E.V.Waddington of Swinton - anyone unfamiliar with the name or the company should look him up on the internet - was the successful claimant against BWB's failure to maintain the S&SYN to the statutory dimensions (depth) obligatory under the 1968 Transport Act, as a direct consequence of the barges he was loading down to the statutory depth for the S&SYN in Goole consistently grounding at several points along the canal and unable to reach their intended destinations. Thanks for that info Tony, I had always wondered whether s.106 had ever been activated.
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Post by JohnV on Jul 22, 2020 7:32:02 GMT
Swinton should be the Mecca of boaters
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Post by NigelMoore on Jul 22, 2020 7:33:12 GMT
Has 'democracy' in the UK been a 'failure'? Truth is, there need be no conflict over which approach is best – ALL possible avenues need exploiting. That takes individual and unsupported action as well as concerted and coordinated group action. However the will to get involved is just not present it seems, and 'democracy' only stumbles along effectively for so long as there are activists enough to offset the hearth huggers.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Aug 1, 2020 6:47:09 GMT
Instead of dreaming up ideas on how to provide C&RT's lawyers with opportunities to dump massive costs liabilities on anyone with enough backbone to stand up to them, why don't you ( Kris) take your boat down to Barton Island and ground it in what's left of the MNC, . . the resulting inconvenience to all the boats that are unlikely to be able to get past should lead to at least some measure of outrage directed at C&RT's negligence. _________________________________________________________________________ To which Kris replied (at 9:01:56 GMT):
Because Tony I care for my boat more than you obviously do. Taking that course of action when knowing there is an obstruction would be considered bloody minded at best. I intend to call your best friend Stuart who is the local enforcement officer at the moment, to see what crt intend to do. I’m also hoping to sail down on a friends narrowboat in person before attempting it in Medlock. It's two weeks tomorrow since Kris made this rather transparent and feeble excuse for his lack of enthusiasm for taking up the suggestion of publicly embarrassing C&RT with a practical demonstration of how they are failing to fulfill their statutory obligations to maintain the inland waterways to the standards imposed under the Transport Act of 1968. He stated, in the alternative, his intention of speaking with S. Garner of C&RT with regard to how much longer his employers are planning to leave the sand and silt deposited by last Winter's floods restricting the navigable depth of the river Trent at Barton Island to less than the Trust is statutorily obliged to maintain, . . but has since remained silent as to the outcome. Has he, I wonder, spoken with Garner, or anyone else at C&RT, and what was the outcome, . . or is he just keeping his head down and hoping that his tacit support for another major transgression on the part of the organization he professes to oppose is quickly forgotten ?
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Post by TonyDunkley on Aug 1, 2020 18:31:46 GMT
Bumpety - bump !
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Post by Trina on Aug 1, 2020 20:00:13 GMT
I'm now singing the Peter Sellars & Sophia Loren song thanks to Tony's last post... Goodness,gracious me !
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Post by TonyDunkley on Aug 1, 2020 20:16:53 GMT
I'm now singing the Peter Sellars & Sophia Loren song thanks to Tony's last post... Goodness,gracious me ! . . . . . . wasn't that boombuddy - boombuddy - boom - boom - boom ?
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Post by Trina on Aug 1, 2020 21:32:41 GMT
Twas,but my mind works in mysterious ways...
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Post by peterboat on Aug 2, 2020 0:27:52 GMT
He is also a very rich man. Was a rich man Kris, he is dead and passed it on to Steve and Tony. I sort of knew him [chatted to him at his lock] Steve I know better and have enjoyed a tow and Cider from him. For possibly some of the richest men in Yorkshire you would never know it!
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Post by Jim on Aug 2, 2020 15:24:17 GMT
He is also a very rich man. Was a rich man Kris, he is dead and passed it on to Steve and Tony. I sort of knew him [chatted to him at his lock] Steve I know better and have enjoyed a tow and Cider from him. For possibly some of the richest men in Yorkshire you would never know it! ... And Kris has started another ear worm. If I was a rich man...
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Post by kris on Aug 2, 2020 15:57:15 GMT
Yes I seem to be getting the blame for a lot of things on this thread. I’d just like to remind everyone that cart are responsible for dredging the navigation, not myself.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Aug 3, 2020 5:30:42 GMT
. . . . . . I’d just like to remind everyone that cart are responsible for dredging the navigation, not myself. Nothing to the contrary has been posted in this thread, or elsewhere ! It was simply suggested that you take your boat - which needs a good 9" LESS than the draught to which C&RT are obliged to maintain the Trent above Nottingham under the Transport Act of 1968 and the 2012 C&RT/Defra MoU - along the river between Cranfleet and Beeston Locks. With the river presently down to normal Summer levels, and NO dredging done to remove sand and silt deposited by last Winter's floods, it's pretty certain that you would ground in the little that's left of the MNC across the now extensive shoal topside of Barton Island. Your reaction to this, consisting only of irrelevancies and hysterics about 'caring' for your boat too much to risk grounding it on a sandbank, does you no credit, . . and now you're ducking the question about the outcome of the conversation that YOU stated your intention of having with C&RT some two weeks ago with regard to their failure to meet the 1968 TA maintenance obligations.
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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 3, 2020 6:17:56 GMT
What damage gently coming to a stop on a pile of sand and silt would be done to the steel baseplate? We have been told countless times that baseplates are almost never blacked for the reason they often scrape along the bottom of canals and the blacking would simply wear off.
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Post by patty on Aug 3, 2020 7:10:43 GMT
Its very easy to give advice, partake if not involved. However I don't see why anyone would want to deliberately ground their much loved boat not even as a statement....
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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 3, 2020 7:38:07 GMT
I don't see why a woman wanted to throw herself under the King's horse so that other women could get the right to vote. Go figure!
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