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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 12:59:10 GMT
A much better idea. The thought occurs there may be enough space in the engine compartment when folded.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 13:37:51 GMT
A much better idea. The thought occurs there may be enough space in the engine compartment when folded. That would be really handy if it works, I'll have a butchers later. My worry would be that the ebike is quite heavy and it has various bars and bits sticking out all over the place, and any one of them could press down on a fuel line or something else a bit sensitive. I also brought a normal folder- until I could decide which was the better option- and that is a lot lighter, and would probably fit in under the engine board, with less risk of causing problems, and that would also help a lot to free up the cratch for the ebike.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 13:45:50 GMT
Also maybe some kind of purpose-designed bracket welded on to d-lock your bike to. At the end of the day they are nicer to use than a long chain.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 13:47:16 GMT
One thing to watch out for with the increased weight of a folding electric bike is the hinge part. You don't want to be putting too much strain on it as they can break off. So if you have to shoe horn it into the engine bay it could cause problems.
It depends which one it is. This may only be a problem on cheap aluminium folding ebikes.
When I had a narrow boat I had four non folding full size bicycles including an old butchers bike in the engine room..
That was a big engine room though.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 14:02:52 GMT
Also maybe some kind of purpose-designed bracket welded on to d-lock your bike to. At the end of the day they are nicer to use than a long chain. I definitely need an eye bolt thing welding into the cratch, before I can use it for the ebike- I cant see anything in there to use for anchoring a chain or lock. The cratch doubles as the waste pre-disposal accumulation point, so a variable amount of space is needed. My hope is most of the time I can bung the bike in without folding it, but at times I will need more space. I reckon a chain will give me some flexibility to move the bike around if need to accommodate other gear in there temporarily- and some of those chains are monsters.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 14:54:34 GMT
A much better idea. The thought occurs there may be enough space in the engine compartment when folded. Too much faff, lifting the deck boards putting a bike down there then trying to put boards back and realising if wont fit.. Take off the front wheel and move handles bars to be inline with frame and it might fit depending on space. Have tried.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 15:02:34 GMT
A much better idea. The thought occurs there may be enough space in the engine compartment when folded. Too much faff, lifting the deck boards putting a bike down there then trying to put boards back and realising if wont fit.. Take off the front wheel and move handles bars to be inline with frame and it might fit depending on space. Have tried. Thanks for the heads up froggy, I just had a quick look and it looks like the normal folding bike might fit in there (with handlebars twisted as you said), but there's a line running from the rear of the compartment towards the engine, about level with the engine block- I think it might the main fuel line from the diesel tank, and it looks very vulnerable to getting caught up by stray bits of bike as I lift it in and out. Its a shame as there is a fait bit of space, but I dont think I'd take the risk of pulling off a fuel line whilst manhandling the bike in there.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 15:06:38 GMT
Fuel lines can be moved easily though if you are handy with copper pipe/fittings..
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 15:17:08 GMT
Fuel lines can be moved easily though if you are handy with copper pipe/fittings.. It would be worth a thought if it frees up some space - maybe some clever boatyard guys could move the fuel line to the side, and then put in two (removable) bars to take the weight of a bike, so that none of it presses on the engine or the various lines. It could use the same principle as the tiller- have two short steel tubes permanently welded on and stricking out horizontally, and two longer ones that would slide over them to form a support big enough for a bike... That way its easy to get into the engine when needed
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 15:18:25 GMT
Also maybe some kind of purpose-designed bracket welded on to d-lock your bike to. At the end of the day they are nicer to use than a long chain. I definitely need an eye bolt thing welding into the cratch, before I can use it for the ebike- I cant see anything in there to use for anchoring a chain or lock. The cratch doubles as the waste pre-disposal accumulation point, so a variable amount of space is needed. Maybe you can put it in the bin or down an Elsan hopper.
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Post by kris on Sept 30, 2020 15:27:37 GMT
I don’t think I’d want to store my bike in the engine hole, even though I’ve got plenty of space to.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 15:30:50 GMT
It's definitely good for security and if it's an ebike probably quite handy for charging purposes as likely to be close to the inverter and batteries.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 15:32:10 GMT
The other option would be to build a shed,maybe a folding shed with a lifting roof which you could construct alongside the vessel on demand. That might be quite handy actually. I believe Mr Stabby may be able to help with design especially for the lifting roof section.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 15:33:57 GMT
Mr Stabbys shed siting on a canoe.. tow behind.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2020 16:23:46 GMT
The other option would be to build a shed,maybe a folding shed with a lifting roof which you could construct alongside the vessel on demand. That might be quite handy actually. I believe Mr Stabby may be able to help with design especially for the lifting roof section. I've seen quite a few boaters who are clearly cruising, but who unload a variety of gear onto the towpath when stopped for a few days. There was a woman moored a hundred yards back from me near Gayton who placed a few pots with plants on the towpath alongside the bow, and to be honest I thought it was a really nice touch- it gave the mooring a pleasant homely air. She also put out what I presume was her refuse bag next to the stern, which would be for convenience and space reasons, and would be put back inside the boat when moving on. Some boats I've seen on public towpath moorings have bikes, chairs and other gear arrayed nearby- again for convenience and space. I don't think they'd do this in dodgy areas, but more in quiet rural spots. This idea of having a 'moored configuration' and a different setup when moving hadn't occurred to me until Gayton because I hadnt stopped for long enough to be worth putting stuff out. I'm wondering if my moored configuration will be ebike chained in the stern, and cruising setup will be ebike folded in the cratch.
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