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Post by naughtyfox on Oct 22, 2020 19:36:17 GMT
Oh no... it's woken up.
And me to zzz as I have to be up again at 0430 ... asked to drive the Kannus-Kokkola 'express'. Leaving Kannus 0615. In the dark - sunrise around 8am these days. This is the 1425 but covers most of it:
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2020 21:17:17 GMT
Socialism: Tell everybody that hasn't got everything they want that someone else has stolen it from them. Make these poor unfortunates angry, bitter and resentful. Such is the onslaught of the socialist message that these poor unfortunates are driven to drink, drugs (prescription and otherwise) a permanent state of depression and in some cases, suicide. They can't fall back on the love of the family any more, this have been disbanded in favour of 'the big state'. The big state that divides everyone into groups and gives them different levels of 'worthiness'. You're a man on a decent salary? Sorry, not worthy. Actually you're evil, you are stealing from others by not paying enough tax. A single mother with children? Highly worthy. Despite being towards the top of the pile of worthiness the single mother's life is ruined by the socialists as well. Yes, she will get lots of money given to her that has been taken off other people but it's not enough, say the socialists. If the amount was doubled it would not be enough, it will never be enough. And so the single mother joins the pile I described earlier; the bitter, the angry and the resentful. That's socialism folks. ...a motion to extend free school meals over holidays during the Covid-19 pandemic was rejected by MPs. Fish and chip shops, pubs, restaurants and cafes are among the hospitality venues to offer free meals. A growing number of councils across England have also pledged to provide food vouchers over half term. Labour-led authorities in Birmingham, Liverpool, Sheffield, Hammersmith & Fulham and Doncaster are among those agreeing to fund their own schemes. The government said all measures would be kept under review after a Labour motion in the Commons to extend the scheme over holidays until Easter 2021 was defeated.
Hammersmith & Fulham Council leader Stephen Cowan said watching the vote was "cutting". He said: "I have seen a lot of kids who need food. I was in a school on Tuesday speaking to kids who have the free lunches now and they were explaining they have gone for days without a proper meal. "They were very sweet kids, and then I looked at the MPs who were so callously indifferent to that and I thought, ' how can that be happening in the fifth richest country on Earth?' "There are so many things they spend money on, it's a moral imperative." Bloody single mothers. Meanwhile, in other news: MPs are to receive an inflation-busting 3.1 per cent pay rise, bringing their basic annual salary to almost £82,000, the Independent Parliamentary Standards Authority has announced. The increase, revealed on Thursday, will raise MPs' basic pay from £79,468 to £81,932 and will be effective from 1 April. It represents a substantial real-terms increase at a time when inflation is running at 1.8 per cent on the CPI measure. MPs will also receive increased expenses. And thats capitalism, folks. Vote Conservative - the 'fuck you' party.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2020 21:23:53 GMT
The free school meals thing is well dodgy.
I did the maths.
Academy primary school (which my kids are no longer at but were briefly). Let's say 300 primary aged children, probably more as it was popular. In fact it currently has 369 pupils...
Large proportion given free school meals.
Let's say 2/3 of the school and go with 300 pupils for ease of maths. It's a deprived inner east London school.
Ok so £2.30 per meal allocated by local authority. This money goes to the school management.
200 kids daily that's £460 a day.
Big commercial vehicle turns up outside school with the food.
Crap food. Kids get fed.
I'm not in catering but I don't think this is £2.30 worth of food. I reckon it's more like £0.30.
If I am right then school management gets £400 per day which is unused. I wonder where this goes. Someone has a pocket somewhere me thinks.
Scam..
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Post by Clinton Cool on Oct 23, 2020 22:38:03 GMT
Fair point. I know it's unfashionable to wonder how many of the 'poor families' claiming free school meals have the latest iphones throughout the family, a subscription to Sky and visit the local overpriced takeaway on a regular basis. Unfashionable as it might be, it's not an unreasonable thing to wonder.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2020 22:58:10 GMT
The free school meals thing is well dodgy. I did the maths. Academy primary school (which my kids are no longer at but were briefly). Let's say 300 primary aged children, probably more as it was popular. In fact it currently has 369 pupils... Large proportion given free school meals. Let's say 2/3 of the school and go with 300 pupils for ease of maths. It's a deprived inner east London school. Ok so £2.30 per meal allocated by local authority. This money goes to the school management. 200 kids daily that's £460 a day. Big commercial vehicle turns up outside school with the food. Crap food. Kids get fed. I'm not in catering but I don't think this is £2.30 worth of food. I reckon it's more like £0.30. If I am right then school management gets £400 per day which is unused. I wonder where this goes. Someone has a pocket somewhere me thinks. Scam.. After my parents split, I lived with my mother who supported us both on a part-time job of 20 hours a week. Had it not been for free school meals things would have been much, much worse. The food may not have been the best but I honestly looked forward to it. I can't say I dreaded the summer break, but what was for dinner was always a point of suspense.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2020 23:00:26 GMT
I'm sure some of the kids benefit from it I just wish it was not such an obvious scam. My children get free school meals but they always complain about the quality of the food. I'm not against the principle at all but the finances behind it are dodgy. Bearing in mind you must be about 50 we are talking about a 40 year ago thing.. A lot can happen in 40 years. Don't ask me how I know this but I was once 6 and actually rather liked it !!
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Post by Clinton Cool on Oct 23, 2020 23:24:13 GMT
I prefer the notion that if people choose to have children they should be responsible for feeding them. If they can't afford to feed their children they shouldn't have them. If over time people know they can have children without paying for their meals people can just have children on a whim or as a result of a slip, or a mistake. None of these things have any negative consequences, just positive ones. So people will just have random children without any feeling of responsibility and any notion of a society where everyone does their bit is sacrificed in favour of the nationalisation of children.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2020 23:30:13 GMT
The free school meals thing is well dodgy. I did the maths. Academy primary school (which my kids are no longer at but were briefly). Let's say 300 primary aged children, probably more as it was popular. In fact it currently has 369 pupils... Large proportion given free school meals. Let's say 2/3 of the school and go with 300 pupils for ease of maths. It's a deprived inner east London school. Ok so £2.30 per meal allocated by local authority. This money goes to the school management. 200 kids daily that's £460 a day. Big commercial vehicle turns up outside school with the food. Crap food. Kids get fed. I'm not in catering but I don't think this is £2.30 worth of food. I reckon it's more like £0.30. If I am right then school management gets £400 per day which is unused. I wonder where this goes. Someone has a pocket somewhere me thinks. Scam.. Like you are so aware man.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2020 23:31:48 GMT
I prefer the notion that if people choose to have children they should be responsible for feeding them. If they can't afford to feed their children they shouldn't have them. If over time people know they can have children without paying for their meals people can just have children on a whim or as a result of a slip, or a mistake. None of these things have any negative consequences, just positive ones. So people will just have random children without any feeling of responsibility and any notion of a society where everyone does their bit is sacrificed in favour of the nationalisation of children. The solution is clear. Sterilise the poor.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2020 23:34:26 GMT
My children get free school meals but they always complain about the quality of the food. Aint nothing new under the sun.
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Post by naughtyfox on Oct 24, 2020 6:24:07 GMT
"MPs are to receive an inflation-busting 3.1 per cent pay rise, bringing their basic annual salary to almost £82,000"
bodger will tell us that's peanuts.
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Post by naughtyfox on Oct 24, 2020 7:09:41 GMT
I prefer the notion that if people choose to have children they should be responsible for feeding them. If they can't afford to feed their children they shouldn't have them. If other people didn't have children, who would pay your pension, rent your houses, provide health care for you, provide a military for you, police your streets, make your beer, clothes and e-cigarettes? Paying for other people's childrens' education, meals and health means you live in a more civilised society.
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Post by naughtyfox on Oct 24, 2020 7:11:40 GMT
If they can't afford to feed their children they shouldn't have them. You drive your moped regularly to Manchester and back. Did you pay for all that asphalting of the roads? if not, you shouldn't be using them! (just one angle of looking at things)
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Post by bodger on Oct 24, 2020 7:20:07 GMT
I prefer the notion that if people choose to have children they should be responsible for feeding them. If they can't afford to feed their children they shouldn't have them. If over time people know they can have children without paying for their meals people can just have children on a whim or as a result of a slip, or a mistake. None of these things have any negative consequences, just positive ones. So people will just have random children without any feeling of responsibility and any notion of a society where everyone does their bit is sacrificed in favour of the nationalisation of children. oh! that is so old-fashioned.
don't you know that the younger generation (including the ones that key your car, vandalise the parks and bus shelters and give you the finger if you dare to look sternly in their direction) are the future of this country?
it is the duty of the poor, the lazy and the ignorant to multiply and the duty of the rich, the hard-working and the ambitious to pay lots of taxes to subsidise the breeding classes.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Oct 24, 2020 7:26:13 GMT
"MPs are to receive an inflation-busting 3.1 per cent pay rise, bringing their basic annual salary to almost £82,000" bodger will tell us that's peanuts. Whereas when covid struck the 'base level' of universal credit was increased by over 20%.
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