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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2016 8:27:58 GMT
I just think Dan's been on too many motivational courses. Don"t get me wrong, motivation is a good thing but it can become demotivating for those around you if you use it sel-fish-ly. Oh!!! this must be the salmon of discontent Well some feel we were duped into donating a few squid before the plaice started to sink.
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Post by Graham on Oct 21, 2016 8:39:03 GMT
I see the loaves & fishes man liveth
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Post by JohnV on Oct 21, 2016 8:41:07 GMT
I see the loaves & fishes man liveth Now now .... don't get crabby
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Post by Graham on Oct 21, 2016 8:44:47 GMT
I see the loaves & fishes man liveth Now now .... don't get crabby Wot me lol
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2016 9:22:06 GMT
Nick watch your back. You are an eloquent educated person and can string words together. You have life's experiences to guide you. Now in my opinion he is someone who is not that well educated and has great problems with words. It could well be that he will see you as a major enemy and threat. I suspect in person you can be charming; whilst I found him gauche and certainly not a person of his word. To be fair he's taken my fairly strong criticisms with good grace - although totally failed to take them on board! If I get banned then to be honest I won't care much. In fact I wouldn't want to be part of a forum where one gets banned for trying to help the owner out of a pickle. As to me, I can of course be charming, but also, according to the CWDF mods, a MONSTER! I guess it depends on the phase of the moon. Here's one for you Nick...
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Post by The Lockie on Oct 21, 2016 9:22:44 GMT
Does it matter what happens over there? It is sad that this should happen to a great forum,they may indeed get back on track.However the actions of Dan in attempting to remedy the problem demonstrates an autocratic and condescending attitude not that far off that of the moderators involved.
For that reason and no other I no longer wish to be involved with a forum I once greatly enjoyed being a part of. Things change and,sometimes,no matter how sad it makes you, you just have to move on.
I cannot be part of a forum with that kind of ethos
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Post by JohnV on Oct 21, 2016 9:33:46 GMT
excellent post Lockie ...... it deserves more than just a thumbs up ......... puts it all in a nutshell (not that there aren't enough nuts on here anyway)
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Post by bettina on Oct 21, 2016 10:33:44 GMT
Does it matter what happens over there? It is sad that this should happen to a great forum,they may indeed get back on track.However the actions of Dan in attempting to remedy the problem demonstrates an autocratic and condescending attitude not that far off that of the moderators involved. For that reason and no other I no longer wish to be involved with a forum I once greatly enjoyed being a part of. Things change and,sometimes,no matter how sad it makes you, you just have to move on. I cannot be part of a forum with that kind of ethos I'm with you on this Lockie. Personally I couldn't give a Monkey's armpit now if I get banned or not. I refuse to accept being addressed as you would a small child, and I also refuse to be told what topics & content I can and cannot say on this forum for fear of being banned over there. Dan, nor the MOD's have the right to impose their "rules" on this site. Thankfully the rules of this site (are there any?) lays with Delta9. As with most others, it does sadden me to see cwdf in the state it is currently in & has been for some while. The locking and follow up the two s8 threads were the final straw for me, and it's only got a lot worse since then IMO
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2016 10:58:05 GMT
Those of you that contributed to cwdf finances bear this in mind. The number of cancelled subscriptions is not anywhere near the level it might appear, in fact I expect the net contributions may actaully rise. Certainly we have a sustainable amount of income and a significant buffer for rainy days. Anyone seen a proper set of accounts? www.canalworld.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=87980&p=1902960...but there is no detail. The only way I can see contributions rise now is if he has had a 'special' sponsor who has a stake in the recent events over there. So no made up accounts are available? Is there even a requirement for forums to demonstrate financial accountability? Are the donations just that? Gifts to the site owner to do with as he sees fit? Is there no requirement to show the donors where their money has been spent? I'm intrigued.
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Post by john6767 on Oct 21, 2016 11:06:32 GMT
I don't see there is any need for there to be any formal accounts, I suspect as you say the monies are basically gifts to Dan as there is no legal entity. Some time ago Ange took on the responsibility for the accounts, so I would expect that they would be nothing untoward going on with the money. Clearly if people are not happy they will not donate, but it's not huge amounts really.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2016 11:20:29 GMT
I don't see there is any need for there to be any formal accounts, I suspect as you say the monies are basically gifts to Dan as there is no legal entity. Some time ago Ange took on the responsibility for the accounts, so I would expect that they would be nothing untoward going on with the money. Clearly if people are not happy they will not donate, but it's not huge amounts really. I wasn't just speaking about cwdf nor was I alleging any impropriety, I didn't donate, but I would have thought it a good idea to show where the money those that had was spent. I wondered if anyone knew if there was a requirement in general for all forums etc that receive a revenue stream to show what has happened to the cash.
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Post by patty on Oct 21, 2016 12:07:06 GMT
I may be wrong(I am a woman) but I would have thought public forums with income source should be audited and the accounts published..if the forum and money is "Dans" then would he have to declare on his tax return? There must be a clever man on here who knows about this stuff...
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Post by Graham on Oct 21, 2016 12:12:55 GMT
So no made up accounts are available? Is there even a requirement for forums to demonstrate financial accountability? Are the donations just that? Gifts to the site owner to do with as he sees fit? Is there no requirement to show the donors where their money has been spent? I'm intrigued. Technically the owner's to do with as he likes. One reason I never donated. If the forum was a company or charity etc then it goes to forum and can go nowhere else
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Post by Graham on Oct 21, 2016 12:15:49 GMT
I don't see there is any need for there to be any formal accounts, I suspect as you say the monies are basically gifts to Dan as there is no legal entity. Some time ago Ange took on the responsibility for the accounts, so I would expect that they would be nothing untoward going on with the money. Clearly if people are not happy they will not donate, but it's not huge amounts really. As you say no legal entity so what happens to the surplus who accounts for the money. People have got rich on donations in the past, most got caught,
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Post by john6767 on Oct 21, 2016 12:33:36 GMT
I don't see there is any need for there to be any formal accounts, I suspect as you say the monies are basically gifts to Dan as there is no legal entity. Some time ago Ange took on the responsibility for the accounts, so I would expect that they would be nothing untoward going on with the money. Clearly if people are not happy they will not donate, but it's not huge amounts really. As you say no legal entity so what happens to the surplus who accounts for the money. People have got rich on donations in the past, most got caught, It is a donation in effect to an individual so I can't see how there is any comeback in those cases. It would think get rich schemes where donations have been misappropriated are mainly when the donation have gone to an organisation and an officer of that organisation has misused them, so there is certainly legal wrongdoing there.
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