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Post by jubjub on Dec 10, 2021 16:23:09 GMT
Excluding finding a suitable mooring or having a permanent address for mail etc
What do you consider the negatives of living on your boat permanently.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Dec 10, 2021 16:26:01 GMT
Seeing your shit twice.
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Post by jubjub on Dec 10, 2021 16:27:44 GMT
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Post by Telemachus on Dec 10, 2021 16:34:07 GMT
Excluding finding a suitable mooring or having a permanent address for mail etc What do you consider the negatives of living on your boat permanently. We have a really nice boat well equipped for live aboard, but for me it's just a lack of space to carry out my various hobbies. We are quite happy "living aboard" for a few months in the summer, but in winter with long dark nights I think the lack of stuff to do would drive me mad. Of course maybe if you are out at work a lot it would be better, but we don't do the work thing. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2021 16:45:30 GMT
Water and rubbish, for me.
Water because I always have to think about how much I'm using, rubbish because it was the only reason I needed to move the boat further than 1 lock and about 1km during the winter to dispose of it correctly with a clear conscience rather than dumping it by the side of a roadside bin. (have long term online mooring with no facilities, marina nearby for loo and diesel but won't take rubbish and I always run out of water before diesel/loo capacity even though all heating is diesel)
Both of them have been partially solved by getting a bike and trailer, primarily to get me fit, but also partially solves the above. Although getting bogged down in the swamp that is a towpath pulling 30 litres of water yesterday MIGHT start becoming a bit tedious...
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Post by kris on Dec 10, 2021 17:12:57 GMT
Muddy towpaths in winter.
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Post by Isambard Kingdom Brunel on Dec 10, 2021 17:25:46 GMT
Streams of wannabees telling me how wonderful it must be to live on a boat in winter when is freezing cold, raining, dark all day and I have run out of coal/gas/water/food/patience.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2021 17:27:13 GMT
Apologies for answering when I'm not a live aboard , but it's a very interesting question.
We come home at the end of September and will return to liveaboard in the new year (usually 1st January, but delayed due to covid this year, and possibly to be delayed next year due to family issues).
I find living in the house with a car, most days just pass by without much thought or effort. Hot water, central heating, constant unlimited electricity, comfortable transport at hand ... the days blur into one with little feeling of achievement.
On the boat I seem obliged to be 'living in the moment' to a greater degree.
Heating, water, fuel , shopping and basic maintenance seem to dictate a full daily schedule without ever seeming to be doing very much ... of course a trip to a shop (twenty minutes in the car) can take half a day without transport.
After several weeks at home I can identify that these boaty pressures have simply disappeared ... but personally my life on the boat with all its
quirky pressures and necessary effort seems much fuller and more enjoyable ... and somehow seems to provide a greater sense of achievement.
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Post by brummieboy on Dec 10, 2021 18:46:54 GMT
The physical/medical complications that come with advancing years compounded with the muddy towpaths, cold weather and darkness are much better coped with from a landbase where water, toilet and gas are no problem.
The liveaboard experience in the summer can then be enjoyed more so in the summer.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Dec 10, 2021 18:58:05 GMT
Apologies for answering when I'm not a live aboard , but it's a very interesting question. We come home at the end of September and will return to liveaboard in the new year (usually 1st January, but delayed due to covid this year, and possibly to be delayed next year due to family issues). I find living in the house with a car, most days just pass by without much thought or effort. Hot water, central heating, constant unlimited electricity, comfortable transport at hand ... the days blur into one with little feeling of achievement. On the boat I seem obliged to be 'living in the moment' to a greater degree. Heating, water, fuel , shopping and basic maintenance seem to dictate a full daily schedule without ever seeming to be doing very much ... of course a trip to a shop (twenty minutes in the car) can take half a day without transport. For me, having a home mooring negates many of the issues you raise. I have a water tap, Mark on the fuel boat passes by more than often enough, I have parking for the car, a shore-based generator for anything the boat inverter cannot handle... I think CCing would be much more of a logistical chore. |
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Post by metanoia on Dec 10, 2021 22:42:20 GMT
Apologies for answering when I'm not a live aboard , but it's a very interesting question. We come home at the end of September and will return to liveaboard in the new year (usually 1st January, but delayed due to covid this year, and possibly to be delayed next year due to family issues). I find living in the house with a car, most days just pass by without much thought or effort. Hot water, central heating, constant unlimited electricity, comfortable transport at hand ... the days blur into one with little feeling of achievement. On the boat I seem obliged to be 'living in the moment' to a greater degree. Heating, water, fuel , shopping and basic maintenance seem to dictate a full daily schedule without ever seeming to be doing very much ... of course a trip to a shop (twenty minutes in the car) can take half a day without transport. For me, having a home mooring negates many of the issues you raise. I have a water tap, Mark on the fuel boat passes by more than often enough, I have parking for the car, a shore-based generator for anything the boat inverter cannot handle... I think CCing would be much more of a logistical chore. Agreed - there are various "liveaboard" lifestyles. Too many wannabees seem to forget that. This last year or two has been strange but the coming hard winter will, I imagine, sort the men from the boys and send many scuttling back home.... |
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Post by Mr Stabby on Dec 10, 2021 22:51:56 GMT
For me, having a home mooring negates many of the issues you raise. I have a water tap, Mark on the fuel boat passes by more than often enough, I have parking for the car, a shore-based generator for anything the boat inverter cannot handle... I think CCing would be much more of a logistical chore. Agreed - there are various "liveaboard" lifestyles. Too many wannabees seem to forget that. This last year or two has been strange but the coming hard winter will, I imagine, sort the men from the boys and send many scuttling back home.... I found my first Winter difficult, not just because of the sharp learning curve but also because I had severe bronchitis for much of it and even carrying a bag of coal onto the foredeck would leave me gasping for breath but this is my sixth or seventh Winter on the boat and I'm completely attuned to it now. I don't like Winter and if I was wealthy I would bugger off to South Africa for three months at this time of year but I'm not so I don't. |
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Post by metanoia on Dec 10, 2021 23:07:08 GMT
Agreed - there are various "liveaboard" lifestyles. Too many wannabees seem to forget that. This last year or two has been strange but the coming hard winter will, I imagine, sort the men from the boys and send many scuttling back home.... I found my first Winter difficult, not just because of the sharp learning curve but also because I had severe bronchitis for much of it and even carrying a bag of coal onto the foredeck would leave me gasping for breath but this is my sixth or seventh Winter on the boat and I'm completely attuned to it now. I don't like Winter and if I was wealthy I would bugger off to South Africa for three months at this time of year but I'm not so I don't. I bought my first (extremely basic) boat and set off in October. A few weeks later, on an early November morning, I looked up at the ceiling above the bed in wonder .... a stalactite was hanging from a knot in the ceiling - no miracle - it was an icicle! I, too, am attuned to winter afloat in my 15th year and although it's far from easy I'd rather be here... |
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Post by Mr Stabby on Dec 11, 2021 8:34:27 GMT
... of course a trip to a shop (twenty minutes in the car) can take half a day without transport. The beauty of the Clockwork Banana. It only has a top speed of 25mph but a shop which is three miles away takes seven minutes to get to. And of course it's a lot easier to bring back a week's shopping in the basket and topbox compared to lugging heavy carrier bags back. It's MOT exempt, the road tax is free, I've just insured Red Marauder and Clockwork Banana on a multi-bike policy and I paid less to insure both than the previous owner paid to insure Red Marauder on its own so you could argue that the insurance is free too. It does about 100 miles on a gallon of pre-mix. As well as the economics of owning it, a basket of goods from a convenience store which costs £30 might cost £20 at a supermarket a few miles away so it's probably saved me getting on for as much as I paid for it in the first place. |
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Post by JohnV on Dec 11, 2021 8:58:47 GMT
I do not CC Sabina H and I have lived aboard her fulltime for 14 (?) years.
Benfleet had water/electric/parking right by, and my present mooring in Beverley has the same with the exception of water.
I have a trailer that carries 250 litres and I can collect from the drydock (where I go frequently anyway) and there are two workshop units opposite that are willing to let me fill up if needed and I also know where there is a tap I can access but it involves about 150 metres of hose laying out. 
Diesel delivery by road tanker
Rubbish disposal can also be a problem on occasion but never too bad
I wouldn't change it
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