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Post by Mr Stabby on Aug 8, 2022 21:26:22 GMT
I think perhaps the country would be better run by someone who has a genuine drive , passion and ambition to improve the lot of the less fortunate in society. That seems to exclude career politicians. Rog No I disagree, good intentions alone are not good enough. There is no magic money tree to dole out to those less fortunate. You want to take money from the rich and give to the poor? Fine. So now there is no point in making lots of money, we’ll all just doss around doing the minimum. Or emigrate to a country that shows less resentment to people who have done well in life. Now where is the money for the less fortunate? So you need a much more intelligent strategy, and that requires a lot more than just good intentions. Well, there's certainly something wrong with a society where folk have to live in tents on canal towpaths.
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Post by Telemachus on Aug 8, 2022 21:36:37 GMT
No I disagree, good intentions alone are not good enough. There is no magic money tree to dole out to those less fortunate. You want to take money from the rich and give to the poor? Fine. So now there is no point in making lots of money, we’ll all just doss around doing the minimum. Or emigrate to a country that shows less resentment to people who have done well in life. Now where is the money for the less fortunate? So you need a much more intelligent strategy, and that requires a lot more than just good intentions. Well, there's certainly something wrong with a society where folk have to live in tents on canal towpaths. Of course there is something wrong with it. But it is very easy to point out the flaws and faults, much harder to have the ideas and capability to fix them.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2022 21:52:21 GMT
..., we’ll all just doss around doing the minimum. Or emigrate to a country that shows less resentment to people who have done well in life. Now where is the money for the less fortunate? So you need a much more intelligent strategy, and that requires a lot more than just good intentions. In the real world greed will always exist. There will be people who think, incorrectly, that making as much money as possible means "success" or "doing well". This is clearly a flawed strategy. It would be far more intelligent as a species if life for everyone was made basically comfortable. Anyone unfortunate enough to suffer from greed and the assumption that their own wealth generation ability somehow elevates their status can be shown the error of their ways by taxation. Instinct says they will still do it. If they dislike it then fuck off and bye bye. Also any scum that get into the management and just want the money will be sent to the farm.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Aug 8, 2022 22:04:36 GMT
..., we’ll all just doss around doing the minimum. Or emigrate to a country that shows less resentment to people who have done well in life. Now where is the money for the less fortunate? So you need a much more intelligent strategy, and that requires a lot more than just good intentions. If they dislike it then fuck off and bye bye. But what would we do without Paul Daniels and Jim Davidson?
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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 9, 2022 5:50:51 GMT
1. Evict pikeys - anywhere will do. Antarctica?
2. Stop wasting money painting Police cars in LBGTXYZRM2SP+ colours.
3. Stop wasting money on fake vaccines for a fake pandemic, and don't order any more face masks nor lateral flow test kits from China.
4. Get Dad's Army back on the south coast to deal with the invasion of people who hate the British.
That will save a few hundred billion for starters.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2022 7:20:08 GMT
I think perhaps the country would be better run by someone who has a genuine drive , passion and ambition to improve the lot of the less fortunate in society. That seems to exclude career politicians. Rog No I disagree, good intentions alone are not good enough. There is no magic money tree to dole out to those less fortunate. You want to take money from the rich and give to the poor? Fine. So now there is no point in making lots of money, we’ll all just doss around doing the minimum. Or emigrate to a country that shows less resentment to people who have done well in life. Now where is the money for the less fortunate? So you need a much more intelligent strategy, and that requires a lot more than just good intentions. No ... I want a party or individual with passion, drive, and ambition to identify these issues and fix them , or at least endeavour to. You mentioned good intentions not I. I find it abhorrent that in the 6th richest nation in the world some people are left to live in card board boxes ... such an easy and relatively cheap thing to fix. There is no magic money tree ... unless or until the time something happens on which politicians choose to spend ... banks, pandemic, Ukraine etc. I dream of a day when our politicians main priority is the health and welfare of their people. Rog
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Post by Telemachus on Aug 9, 2022 7:45:43 GMT
No I disagree, good intentions alone are not good enough. There is no magic money tree to dole out to those less fortunate. You want to take money from the rich and give to the poor? Fine. So now there is no point in making lots of money, we’ll all just doss around doing the minimum. Or emigrate to a country that shows less resentment to people who have done well in life. Now where is the money for the less fortunate? So you need a much more intelligent strategy, and that requires a lot more than just good intentions. No ... I want a party or individual with passion, drive, and ambition to identify these issues and fix them , or at least endeavour to. You mentioned good intentions not I. I find it abhorrent that in the 6th richest nation in the world some people are left to live in card board boxes ... such an easy and relatively cheap thing to fix. There is no magic money tree ... unless or until the time something happens on which politicians choose to spend ... banks, pandemic, Ukraine etc. I dream of a day when our politicians main priority is the health and welfare of their people. Rog The problem is that there probably isn’t a solution to meet your expectations. No previous uk government of any colour has managed it. No government of any other country that I can think of has managed it. So I think you will be waiting a long time. The reality is all about compromise and the degree thereof. Saying that people living in cardboard boxes is an easy and cheap thing to fix demonstrates phenomenal naivety. You should look into why that happens.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2022 7:52:11 GMT
in the 6th richest nation in the world some people are left to live in card board boxes ... such an easy and relatively cheap thing to fix. . Rog Perhaps government should do a "winter duck tape offer".
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Post by bills on Aug 9, 2022 7:57:09 GMT
No ... I want a party or individual with passion, drive, and ambition to identify these issues and fix them , or at least endeavour to. You mentioned good intentions not I. I find it abhorrent that in the 6th richest nation in the world some people are left to live in card board boxes ... such an easy and relatively cheap thing to fix. There is no magic money tree ... unless or until the time something happens on which politicians choose to spend ... banks, pandemic, Ukraine etc. I dream of a day when our politicians main priority is the health and welfare of their people. Rog Saying that people living in cardboard boxes is an easy and cheap thing to fix demonstrates phenomenal nativity. You should look into why that happens. I think we are mixing up cardboard boxes with stables. Would the gifts of gold, frankincense and myrrh help in the long run or would it be exchanged for temporary oblivion? Were the three men wise or just do-gooders?
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Post by Telemachus on Aug 9, 2022 7:59:35 GMT
Saying that people living in cardboard boxes is an easy and cheap thing to fix demonstrates phenomenal nativity. You should look into why that happens. I think we are mixing up cardboard boxes with stables. Would the gold frankincense and myrrh help in the long run or would it be exchanged for temporary oblivion? Autocorrect typo fixed thanks. It would have been quite funny if only I had done it deliberately!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2022 8:00:21 GMT
No ... I want a party or individual with passion, drive, and ambition to identify these issues and fix them , or at least endeavour to. You mentioned good intentions not I. I find it abhorrent that in the 6th richest nation in the world some people are left to live in card board boxes ... such an easy and relatively cheap thing to fix. There is no magic money tree ... unless or until the time something happens on which politicians choose to spend ... banks, pandemic, Ukraine etc. I dream of a day when our politicians main priority is the health and welfare of their people. Rog The problem is that there probably isn’t a solution to meet your expectations. No previous uk government of any colour has managed it. No government of any other country that I can think of has managed it. So I think you will be waiting a long time. The reality is all about compromise and the degree thereof. Saying that people living in cardboard boxes is an easy and cheap thing to fix demonstrates phenomenal naivety. You should look into why that happens. I read that as phenomenal nativity ! Jesus.
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Post by Telemachus on Aug 9, 2022 8:01:29 GMT
The problem is that there probably isn’t a solution to meet your expectations. No previous uk government of any colour has managed it. No government of any other country that I can think of has managed it. So I think you will be waiting a long time. The reality is all about compromise and the degree thereof. Saying that people living in cardboard boxes is an easy and cheap thing to fix demonstrates phenomenal naivety. You should look into why that happens. I read that as phenomenal nativity ! Jesus. You read correctly the first time!
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Post by bills on Aug 9, 2022 8:01:37 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2022 8:07:03 GMT
As I said, we have politicians who choose to protect the status quo ... I wonder who that benefits Rog
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Post by kris on Aug 9, 2022 8:32:37 GMT
Saying that people living in cardboard boxes is an easy and cheap thing to fix demonstrates phenomenal naivety. You should look into why that happens. Maybe you should look into the homeless policy in Scotland. North of the border you have much better policies to deal with it compared to England. They where copied from Scandinavian ideas.
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