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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2018 13:29:56 GMT
I have never used a hydraulic drive on a boat but I've heard they tend to be a pain in the arse and expensive. A good solution to maximise space in the cabin but I would always go for shaft and gearbox myself.
When I was a teenager a friend of mine lived on a Wilds Carribean cruiser which had a Perkins diesel mounted midships on a shaft. All the other ones I have seen had a hydraulic drive system. I'm not certain if it was original - perhaps a custom build - or if the owner became so disillusioned / pissed off with the hydraulics that they saw fit to rearrange it.
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Post by bargemast on May 22, 2018 13:48:53 GMT
I have never used a hydraulic drive on a boat but I've heard they tend to be a pain in the arse and expensive. A good solution to maximise space in the cabin but I would always go for shaft and gearbox myself. When I was a teenager a friend of mine lived on a Wilds Carribean cruiser which had a Perkins diesel mounted midships on a shaft. All the other ones I have seen had a hydraulic drive system. I'm not certain if it was original - perhaps a custom build - or if the owner became so disillusioned / pissed off with the hydraulics that they saw fit to rearrange it. Almost all the wide beam (plastic) hireboats in big fleets allover Europe have had this hydraulic-drive system already for ages.
If it wouldn't be reliable, and a real pain in the butt, they would have changed that several decenies ago I would think.
I know that a big brick like hotelboat on the Leeds & Liverpool has an hydraulic-drive system too, and are very happy with it.
It gave them the opportunity to put the engine somewhere where it could be out of the way, well sound-proof, and still be easy accessible.
Peter.
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Post by kris on May 22, 2018 13:51:56 GMT
I have never used a hydraulic drive on a boat but I've heard they tend to be a pain in the arse and expensive. A good solution to maximise space in the cabin but I would always go for shaft and gearbox myself. When I was a teenager a friend of mine lived on a Wilds Carribean cruiser which had a Perkins diesel mounted midships on a shaft. All the other ones I have seen had a hydraulic drive system. I'm not certain if it was original - perhaps a custom build - or if the owner became so disillusioned / pissed off with the hydraulics that they saw fit to rearrange it.
I know that a big brick like hotelboat on the Leeds & Liverpool has an hydraulic-drive system too, and are very happy with it.
It gave them the opportunity to put the engine somewhere where it could be out of the way, well sound-proof, and still be easy accessible.
Peter.
I think "big brick" is the best description of lady teal that I've heard.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2018 13:58:39 GMT
It seems rather a rude way to describe a Lady !
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Post by kris on May 22, 2018 14:21:58 GMT
It seems rather a rude way to describe a Lady ! Maybe, but it's true and describes the boat perfectly
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Post by bargemast on May 22, 2018 14:22:24 GMT
Although this boat that does look like a brick (specially it's underwater shape),it's handling surprisingly well, it's a very comfortable boat and it's passengers are always very pleased with their accomodation, it's a successful business.
Peter.
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Post by bargemast on May 22, 2018 14:51:35 GMT
I couldn't find a picture of that boat, but I found one of a similar one that's slightly longer and trading on the K & A and G-U, apart from the lenghts they are almost identical. Here is a photo on which you can see the "pleasing" lines of the bow, that surely has given the designer a hard task to create such a beautiful hydro-dynamical shaped bow, and the hard job for the fabricaters too Peter.
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Post by IainS on May 22, 2018 15:56:42 GMT
I'm involved in the restoration of a trawler , built 1956, with riveted steel hull, and aluminium superstructure. Answer to your question is "not kindly." How about some photos for all us MFV fans. link to Farcebok albumSorry for the delay. Was away boating. Here are some from this morning. To be honest, it's not as bad as I thought it was. Amazing the difference a bit of paint and Sikaflex can make. The whole deckhead used to leak like a sieve, but it's mostly under control now
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Post by kris on May 22, 2018 16:05:43 GMT
How about some photos for all us MFV fans. link to Farcebok albumSorry for the delay. Was away boating. Here are some from this morning. To be honest, it's not as bad as I thought it was. Amazing the difference a bit of paint and Sikaflex can make. The whole deckhead used to leak like a sieve, but it's mostly under control now Thanks for the link
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Post by naughtyfox on May 22, 2018 16:07:27 GMT
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Post by bargemast on May 22, 2018 19:04:36 GMT
Dear Ross, I do have loads of photo's of this boat, the one I was looking for was the one on which you can see the "beautiful" shape of it's bow all the way to the bottom plate..
That's the reason why I posted the picture of the second one that was built exactly like this one, I thought that that was explained in the text that I posted with the picture, but that probably wasn't clear enough then I suppose.
Peter.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2018 19:25:42 GMT
As Peter says, hire fleets do well with hydraulic drive. I was horrified at the unloved state of the hydraulic system on mouse DC30. It hadn't seen a filter or oil change in an age, as far as I recall it never missed a beat. My brother has a similarly equipped DC30, the BMC shit itself when the DPA pump seal let go, the drive is fine and untouched (and similarly unloved!) Don't forget, forklift trucks and many more pieces of plant give long untroubled and unloved service with hydraulic drive. All you need is someone who knows what they are up to to spec it in the first place. It would seem from the negative press it gets in the inland waterways world that not many know what they are doing with it!
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2018 20:04:37 GMT
Oh yes, hydraulic drive. Great bit of kit.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2018 6:29:26 GMT
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Post by JohnV on May 24, 2018 6:44:44 GMT
That is a very tasty, very well equipped boat !!! ...... I want it ....... but I don't think my pennies will stretch that far
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