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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2018 0:25:51 GMT
Interestingly the old advert on Alan Pease site claims beam 13ft10 which makes it quite a lot more interesting. www.alanpease.co.uk/boats/lake.htmlSo I wonder where the 14ft6 came from.
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Post by Jim on Jun 9, 2018 6:27:39 GMT
Interestingly the old advert on Alan Pease site claims beam 13ft10 which makes it quite a lot more interesting. www.alanpease.co.uk/boats/lake.htmlSo I wonder where the 14ft6 came from. It was a margarine boat. The sort that spreads easy.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2018 6:42:43 GMT
Interestingly the old advert on Alan Pease site claims beam 13ft10 which makes it quite a lot more interesting. www.alanpease.co.uk/boats/lake.htmlSo I wonder where the 14ft6 came from. It was a margarine boat. The sort that spreads easy. I first read that as a magazine boat naughtyfoxGood news, Jim is back to normal.
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Post by bargemast on Jun 9, 2018 6:53:08 GMT
Any views on this boat ? I already own two boats by the same boat fabricator (Pickwell and Arnold) and as I have had recent notification of another wealthy relative kicking the bucket and leaving all their shit to me I might fancy buying it. www.boatshowrooms.com/boats-for-sale/london/pickwell-arnold-15m-dutch-mini-barge/I think £90k is too much. There is a limited market for secondhand boats like that. It looks more like £70k to me. Would be a nice boat for France and oddly enough I have already seen it moored in the port du canal in Dijon, the town where my other half grew up. That barge has spend many years in France, I took a few photos of this boat the first time I saw it at Cambrai (N-France) were it wintered for one (or more) years.
Last year, or maybe the year before, I can't keep track as time is really flying, the boat was craned out at Evans in Migennes (F) to be transported back to the UK by road.
Here the photo's I took at Cambrai in 2006 of Kyrenia
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Post by bargemast on Jun 9, 2018 7:20:09 GMT
Yes Kris, I agree for more than 100%, LAKE certainly is a very beautiful boat (here's one of my "IF's" again), if I had the money, I would be there in a flash to have a better look and a serious inspection with cash in my hands, the closed I can get to "cash" for the moment is "cashew", but I don't think somehow that the owner would swap the boat for a handful of cashew.
The person that has the money and the love for old characterful boats will have a fantastic opportunity with LAKE to buy a real cracker.
Peter.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2018 7:55:09 GMT
Here the photo's I took at Cambrai in 2006 of Kyrenia [/div]
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[/quote] Looks really nice in your pictures peter - thanks for those I like it and as I understand it a <15m boat is sensible for cruising in France. £90k is a lot though considering 5k hours on the engine and its a 17 year old boat. However that size is a very manageable boat with enough room for 4 to be comfortable so it would be quite hard to get a better boat considering we would only be using if for school holidays not intending to live on it. I'd definitely have to put a porthole between the wider spaced rubbing strakes directly below the bedroom porthole. So I could look out across the water from the bed
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2018 8:02:47 GMT
Interestingly the old advert on Alan Pease site claims beam 13ft10 which makes it quite a lot more interesting. www.alanpease.co.uk/boats/lake.htmlSo I wonder where the 14ft6 came from. It was a margarine boat. The sort that spreads easy. Its unlikely to have spread with that cabin on it, birdbrain.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2018 8:07:09 GMT
It does seem odd that the Pease site said 13ft10 but the owner says 14ft6. That's quite a big difference (8 inches makes all the difference as the actress said to the bishop).
The question is did anyone actually measure it and how did they do that.
If one were to go and have a look what would be the best approach to finding an accurate maximum beam?
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Post by bargemast on Jun 9, 2018 8:09:05 GMT
Here the photo's I took at Cambrai in 2006 of Kyrenia [/div]
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[/quote] Looks really nice in your pictures peter - thanks for those I like it and as I understand it a <15m boat is sensible for cruising in France. £90k is a lot though considering 5k hours on the engine and its a 17 year old boat. However that size is a very manageable boat with enough room for 4 to be comfortable so it would be quite hard to get a better boat considering we would only be using if for school holidays not intending to live on it. [/quote][/div]
It's alwys good to be shorter than 15m, as that allows you to find moorings so much easier, and also permits you to turn around on the canals almost everywhere without the need to find a turning basin (often silted up anyway), or a much wider canal section.
Also officially you're allowed to single hand, but that's very rarely checked by the authorities, and if you're using it only for holiday cruises with your family on board of no importance either.
If the 5K engine hours worry you, that may be a possible point for discussion with the sellers to lower the price, if you're really interested in this boat.
17 years is nothing to worry about of course, as the boat has been well maintained, and as you're familiar with the P & A boats, they're build strong enough to last at least another year or two .
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2018 8:16:34 GMT
That's interesting about the single handing. I always single hand my boats and intend to continue doing that in future so 15m or less is definitely sensible if there is a regulation and also it is slightly easier anyway. I really like the way P&A boats handle - they are a joy to steer.
Its pretty local to my boating area (in Shepperton) so easy enough to go and have a look at it.
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Post by kris on Jun 9, 2018 8:21:10 GMT
It does seem odd that the Pease site said 13ft10 but the owner says 14ft6. That's quite a big difference (8 inches makes all the difference as the actress said to the bishop). The question is did anyone actually measure it and how did they do that. If one were to go and have a look what would be the best approach to finding an accurate maximum beam? That's the point it can be quite difficult to measure accurately. I reckon two sticks one either side higher than the cabin top, then a tape measure.
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Post by kris on Jun 9, 2018 8:24:58 GMT
Yes Kris, I agree for more than 100%, LAKE certainly is a very beautiful boat (here's one of my "IF's" again), if I had the money, I would be there in a flash to have a better look and a serious inspection with cash in my hands, the closed I can get to "cash" for the moment is "cashew", but I don't think somehow that the owner would swap the boat for a handful of cashew.
The person that has the money and the love for old characterful boats will have a fantastic opportunity with LAKE to buy a real cracker.
Peter. I'm in a similar situation Peter, I don't think I can manage the cashews at the moment. But lake is definately one of the nicest boats I have ever seen.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2018 8:31:32 GMT
I was thinking two scaffold boards with spirit levels held vertically down the sides then measure with a laser measure.
Its a bit annoying and would need to be done anywhere which looks a bit wide.
Its a lovely lovely boat but the simple fact is if it is 14ft6 anywhere its going to be a real nuisance on the Grand Union. To be fair Ironclad, quoted as 14ft5, went from river Lea to Brentford which includes Han well flight. So its feasible. Just a bit risky once out of the larger Regents canal locks into the slightly smaller Grand Union locks.
It is a stunning boat though..
Someone did once make a large scale caliper but I think that was for a narrow boat and if the wider part coincides with the forward cabin it would complicate it quite a bit.
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Post by Jim on Jun 9, 2018 8:34:01 GMT
It was a margarine boat. The sort that spreads easy. Its unlikely to have spread with that cabin on it, birdbrain. But, er, for the hard of humour, that was a joke, only small, admitedly. Pedantic technical details don't come into it. Gee, some folks are hard work. Did you see what I did there, my humour is spreading!
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Post by kris on Jun 9, 2018 8:35:18 GMT
Yes scaf boards and a laser measure would do it. Are you going to have a look at it then?
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