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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2018 19:07:57 GMT
The boat was a Larch on Oak MFV probably built in the 50s. It was 1990 when I went aboard it (it was stunning) and 1995 when it was broken up. To be fair this was on fresh water which makes a difference I believe they survive much better on salt water. Saltysplash is the man for MFV advice. He owned one called Emblem which I seem to remember had a Gardner 4L3 in it or something equally pleasing.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2018 7:49:45 GMT
This is unusual in that it is a boat on Apollo duck which is NOT for sale. m.apolloduck.com/boat.phtml?id=575998The owner is asking if anyone knows who built it. GRP hull. Shaft not leg or outboard. Seems a nice little boat. If anyone on here knows I'll send a message to the owner who is obviously a fellow boat fusiast. apparently it is narrow beam (says 2m wide) which might narrow down the options considerably. Any ideas @gazza ?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2018 8:31:06 GMT
Not too many I'm afraid!
It's a nice looking hull, first thought was an early Hardy but the bow is too fine for that.
The windows are very similar in style to those used by Hugh Easton on the Elysian. I haven't come across anything to suggest they built any bilge keel motor sailers though.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2018 10:42:23 GMT
If it actually is 2m wide and its a motorsailer it could be the ultimate "go anywhere" boat. I wonder if the beam is incorrect.
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Post by waldamar on Aug 26, 2018 15:20:50 GMT
They also say you aren't allowed to scrap it on their premises. It really looks like some sort of hazardous material problem but other than asbestos I can't see what it would be and the dangerous type of asbestos has been unavailable for quite a long time anyway. Very odd. If it was scrap surely the yard would scrap it rather than sell it for a pound... This is a problem that looks to scupper my plans................. I'd assumed getting rid of my 90' thames lighter would be easy, it seems not - price of scrap is low, oxy/acetylene and diesel expensive. Add on loads of environmental issues/regs and no-one wants to touch it. Upshot of all this is I may have to bodge up the hull I've got and dreams of a lovely attractive boat gone, not giving up yet though - Thames lighter for a quid anyone?
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Post by JohnV on Aug 26, 2018 15:23:23 GMT
I'll giv you a quid for it ..... providing the mooring goes with it
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Post by JohnV on Aug 26, 2018 15:24:59 GMT
and I'll buy you a pint in the Butt and Oyster as well
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Post by waldamar on Aug 26, 2018 16:03:54 GMT
Ha ha................
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Post by waldamar on Aug 26, 2018 16:31:06 GMT
Well Holland was fun, Zaandam interesting with plenty to look at, the yard was very welcoming with a few nice boats for sale. www.dutchbargesholland.com/ anyway I went to view the tanker barge www.apolloduck.com/boat.phtml?id=565122She is really nice, still has some diesel in tanks which is worrying - def needs emptying and de-gassing. Engine and Z drive seem very good. There's not actually standing headroom in the tanks but an 18" coachroof would be ample [more for underfloor tanks] plus would create somewhere correct for portholes. Only thing that surprised me was the frames were very widely spaced, four or five foot as far as I could tell. I guess the fact that the hull is diveded into four tanks means she's rigid enough with all those bulkheads - have to give some thought when chopping them out............... The smaller one www.apolloduck.com/boat.phtml?id=565245 Now this is a tough little thing, much drier tanks and nice close frames, 12 - 14" apart or so. Very limited accomodation and too small for my purposes but lovely. Both have noisey aircooled Deutz engines but the enclosures are original and I'm sure more modern soundproofing could work wonders. I saw a few others and once I work out how to upload pictures I shall post them.
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Post by kris on Aug 26, 2018 17:53:42 GMT
Looking forward to the pics
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Post by bargemast on Aug 27, 2018 17:43:31 GMT
Well Holland was fun, Zaandam interesting with plenty to look at, the yard was very welcoming with a few nice boats for sale. www.dutchbargesholland.com/ anyway I went to view the tanker barge www.apolloduck.com/boat.phtml?id=565122She is really nice, still has some diesel in tanks which is worrying - def needs emptying and de-gassing. Engine and Z drive seem very good. There's not actually standing headroom in the tanks but an 18" coachroof would be ample [more for underfloor tanks] plus would create somewhere correct for portholes. Only thing that surprised me was the frames were very widely spaced, four or five foot as far as I could tell. I guess the fact that the hull is diveded into four tanks means she's rigid enough with all those bulkheads - have to give some thought when chopping them out............... The smaller one www.apolloduck.com/boat.phtml?id=565245 Now this is a tough little thing, much drier tanks and nice close frames, 12 - 14" apart or so. Very limited accomodation and too small for my purposes but lovely. Both have noisey aircooled Deutz engines but the enclosures are original and I'm sure more modern soundproofing could work wonders. I saw a few others and once I work out how to upload pictures I shall post them.
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Post by bargemast on Aug 27, 2018 17:55:58 GMT
Well Holland was fun, Zaandam interesting with plenty to look at, the yard was very welcoming with a few nice boats for sale. www.dutchbargesholland.com/ anyway I went to view the tanker barge www.apolloduck.com/boat.phtml?id=565122She is really nice, still has some diesel in tanks which is worrying - def needs emptying and de-gassing. Engine and Z drive seem very good. There's not actually standing headroom in the tanks but an 18" coachroof would be ample [more for underfloor tanks] plus would create somewhere correct for portholes. Only thing that surprised me was the frames were very widely spaced, four or five foot as far as I could tell. I guess the fact that the hull is diveded into four tanks means she's rigid enough with all those bulkheads - have to give some thought when chopping them out............... The smaller one www.apolloduck.com/boat.phtml?id=565245 Now this is a tough little thing, much drier tanks and nice close frames, 12 - 14" apart or so. Very limited accomodation and too small for my purposes but lovely. Both have noisey aircooled Deutz engines but the enclosures are original and I'm sure more modern soundproofing could work wonders. I saw a few others and once I work out how to upload pictures I shall post them. I'm a bit disappointed to see that you came back empty handed (=without having bought a barge there), just a quick trip up and down in a country where there's so much to see is a pitty.
Did you meet the Kramer brothers Goos (the giant) and Klaas ? they re fairly decent guys, but you'll have to be carefull with any deals and get everything clearly in writing.
Btw. the lovely looking 22m Luxmotor on their site isn't a Luxemotor but a "Steilsteven", never mind the name, it's a nice looking boat anyway.
I would be very interested in seeing the pictures you made during your visit, for the posting of your pictures you have to use a photo hosting site, although I've read on here that there are even easier ways of doing it.
Hope you'll have the time to work out how to do that, as only once your photo's are posted, I may be able to sleep again .
Peter.
It's rather strange that there's such a huge distance between the ribs of the 25m tankerbarge, it would be interesting to know where the boat was built, I'm quite sure that both tankers were built in Germany, but where is he question.
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Post by waldamar on Aug 27, 2018 19:07:49 GMT
Peter, you told me not to buy one unless certain! Yes a shame I had so little time - but it was just a toe in the water trip. I met three Kramer brothers and waved at a fourth - all seem nice fellas but dealers are dealers................... I've not given up on Emstank - she has potential issues but a very reasonable price................. I like the fact that she's big enough to be a good size liveabord houseboat and small enough for a bit of coastal cruising.
Unfortunately clearing my mooring is looking difficult so the project has slowed for the time being - worst case scenario is I'll have to spend my money on repairing a frankly ugly thames lighter and forego replacing her with an attractive boat - not ideal for me or the area [of outstanding natural beauty]
Not giving up yet though, as for pictures - Don't hold your breath - not that good and not many of them. A
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Post by JohnV on Aug 27, 2018 19:30:39 GMT
the edge of the little bit of boaty heaven where Waldemar lives (well apart from the prices in the pub .... although it's not a bad cafe opposite) 004 by mudlarker2, on Flickr
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2018 22:13:18 GMT
I hate it
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