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Post by kris on Oct 21, 2018 13:45:57 GMT
It's the same one, its sat on a truck trailer in a yard near Newark. I reckon the owner has made his money on the crane and engine etc, so could be got for a good price. If it's sound as bargemaster says I reckon you could make it into a good boat.
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Post by kris on Oct 21, 2018 13:47:43 GMT
I quite like this, even though it is a bit boxy. It's a good size.http://www.alanpease.co.uk/boats/kevm.html If the hull is sound, that would be a good base for a conversion for not too much money. Cut everything above deck level off, and start again with something less boxy. Peter. As you say of the hull is sound, I reckon it could be had for a good price. In some ways I wish I had started with an empty unconverted boat. But hey ho.
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Post by bargemast on Oct 21, 2018 17:26:07 GMT
If the hull is sound, that would be a good base for a conversion for not too much money. Cut everything above deck level off, and start again with something less boxy. Peter. As you say of the hull is sound, I reckon it could be had for a good price. In some ways I wish I had started with an empty unconverted boat. But hey ho. It's always like that Kris, but that's something you didn't realise at the time, it may look and even be more work, but the big advantage is that you can see everything before it's going to be hidden by insulation and panelling, and you can do everything exactly the way you want to have it right from the start, instead of continuing what other people with different ideas started with, and adapting to that. This of course if funds would have permitted you to do what you wanted to do. Peter.
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Post by kris on Oct 21, 2018 17:32:03 GMT
As you say of the hull is sound, I reckon it could be had for a good price. In some ways I wish I had started with an empty unconverted boat. But hey ho This of course if funds would have permitted you to do what you wanted to do. Peter. This is always the real issue with boats. At least with my boat it's provided somewhere to live whilst earning the money to do more work on it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2018 17:39:28 GMT
As you say of the hull is sound, I reckon it could be had for a good price. In some ways I wish I had started with an empty unconverted boat. But hey ho. It's always like that Kris, but that's something you didn't realise at the time, it may look and even be more work, but the big advantage is that you can see everything before it's going to be hidden by insulation and panelling, and you can do everything exactly the way you want to have it right from the start, instead of continuing what other people with different ideas started with, and adapting to that. This of course if funds would have permitted you to do what you wanted to do. Peter. Its a nice idea. I've always had a slightly different view which is that if something is unsatisfactory you don't have to beat yourself up about it as it was someone else who made it. Its not just about money its also about ability. I tend to bodge stuff quite shockingly and am completely disorganised. I know how everything should be done on a boat and how it all works down to the fine details (other then electronics) but the transition from knowledge to production doesn't work. So I can't fit out my own boat. I'd like to but it would be a shockingly unruly and untidy shed no matter how much money I throw at it.
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Post by bargemast on Oct 21, 2018 18:29:04 GMT
It's always like that Kris, but that's something you didn't realise at the time, it may look and even be more work, but the big advantage is that you can see everything before it's going to be hidden by insulation and panelling, and you can do everything exactly the way you want to have it right from the start, instead of continuing what other people with different ideas started with, and adapting to that. This of course if funds would have permitted you to do what you wanted to do. Peter. Its a nice idea. I've always had a slightly different view which is that if something is unsatisfactory you don't have to beat yourself up about it as it was someone else who made it. Its not just about money its also about ability. I tend to bodge stuff quite shockingly and am completely disorganised. I know how everything should be done on a boat and how it all works down to the fine details (other then electronics) but the transition from knowledge to production doesn't work. So I can't fit out my own boat. I'd like to but it would be a shockingly unruly and untidy shed no matter how much money I throw at it. Instead of throwing lots of monet at it while it will still look a shockingly unruly and untidy shed if you would do it yourself, you could pay someone that's able to do that work for you, while you watch every step that's done and tell that person exactly what you want, and you'll end up with your dream boat. Most people will have to do the work themselfs, because of their financial means, and their start may not give the best results, but as and old saying says :"Practice makes perfect", so after a couple of days (weeks - months) things won't be as bad anymore and will get better and better, because of this practice. Peter.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2018 18:50:35 GMT
I suppose there is that option available to some people but I'm not one of them. One of the reasons I like living on boats is that I can do everything. In 24 years living on boats I have never had anyone on the boat doing any works other than the BS scheme inspections.
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Post by kris on Oct 26, 2018 18:00:15 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2018 19:51:11 GMT
Anyone care to guess how much they are asking for this little cherub? Its pleasant. Not my cup of tea as I am quite tall but its very pretty. Eta one for bargemast to comment on as he probably knows exactly what it is. It looks like a Tjalk but its a bit different. I wonder if it is a Botter.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2018 19:58:23 GMT
Also noticed that Waterway Dolly is for sale. I've always liked this boat. I've seen one other one the same but there may be more. I think its an ex hire boat. This one has been neglected for a long time but it is all steel so might be okay. A pleasingly unconventional narrow boat design.
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Post by kris on Oct 26, 2018 20:27:02 GMT
Anyone care to guess how much they are asking for this little cherub? Its pleasant. Not my cup of tea as I am quite tall but its very pretty. Eta one for bargemast to comment on as he probably knows exactly what it is. It looks like a Tjalk but its a bit different. I wonder if it is a Botter. I'll guess £26,000
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2018 20:59:12 GMT
the note on the Lee board says £27k Seems a huge price to me. I wonder if it's actually a modern boat therefore in better condition and more valuable .
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Post by kris on Oct 26, 2018 21:02:59 GMT
the note on the Lee board says £27k Seems a huge price to me. I wonder if it's actually a modern boat therefore in better condition and more valuable . I was cheating I think I've seen it on London boaters fb page. But yes if they are new builds these demand high prices. As you point out it's the headroom that is the issue. I like to be able to stand up in what ever I'm living in, that and having your bed up permanently or else it's camping.
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Post by waldamar on Oct 26, 2018 21:45:08 GMT
Also noticed that Waterway Dolly is for sale. I've always liked this boat. I've seen one other one the same but there may be more. I think its an ex hire boat. This one has been neglected for a long time but it is all steel so might be okay. A pleasingly unconventional narrow boat design. that is nice - a bit of a '50s or '60s streamline design - shame a nb isn't for me - how much is she?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2018 6:30:46 GMT
Also noticed that Waterway Dolly is for sale. I've always liked this boat. I've seen one other one the same but there may be more. I think its an ex hire boat. This one has been neglected for a long time but it is all steel so might be okay. A pleasingly unconventional narrow boat design. that is nice - a bit of a '50s or '60s streamline design - shame a nb isn't for me - how much is she? Don't know how much they want but it can't be a lot because it seems to be a 40+ year old steel narrow boat so probably a bit naughty under water. I like the design but the stern is a bit disappointing But it does match the design its just I prefer canal boats to have round sterns.
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