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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2018 19:23:12 GMT
Ad on appalling duck says 6LX but I think this is a 6Lw. A gardner Light Weight LW is a considerably nicer unit than an LX.
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Post by kris on Dec 23, 2018 19:26:08 GMT
Ad on appalling duck says 6LX but I think this is a 6Lw. A gardner Light Weight LW is a considerably nicer unit than an LX. Your definately talking yourself into this one. Let's hope your money comes through.
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Post by bargemast on Dec 23, 2018 21:00:45 GMT
Yes, I think that it would be good if Andrew buys this boat, much better than that it would go to someone we don't know the existence of. That would maybe also give us the occasion (if we would ever have that chance) to have a look at it ourselfs, one day or another. So we too can see the great visibility forward that this boat is giving the helms person Peter.
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Post by kris on Dec 23, 2018 21:14:55 GMT
Yes, I think that it would be good if Andrew buys this boat, much better than that it would go to someone we don't know the existence of. That would maybe also give us the occasion (if we would ever have that chance) to have a look at it ourselfs, one day or another. So we too can see the great visibility forward that this boat is giving the helms person Peter. I don't think he will end up buying it, I've heard it's got poor visability forward from the helm position.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2018 21:37:01 GMT
So I am sensitive about the safety of boats and visibility. This is not a bad thing, Personally I don't care if I squash a few rowers and kayakers that insist on swerving into the path of the boat. All this talk of restricted forward visibility and lack of stature in the height department reminded me of a story from when I was a Yoof of about 11 or 12 As a fully grown man I’m not the tallest bloke in the world - 5’ 7”, as such I wasn’t a very tall kid - that much is easy enough to extrapolate Mum and stepdad had a 45’ Hancock and Lane NB with a noisy old SR3 in it. To to get half a view forward (and manage the tiller comfortably) I had to stand on a milk crate. So far so good. Chugging down river on a hot sunny day mum and stepdad were inside attending to my little sister leaving me in charge, up ahead to the starboard bank was a pair of adults in a Canadian canoe, to the port bank two young kids in a double kayak. No problem thinks I - deep clear channel midstream with two canoes safely out the way either side, what I didn’t know was they were tied together with a bit of nylon cord. I couldn’t hear any shouting over the SR and I had fixed my gaze further ahead having dismissed the canoeists as no hazard. As sure as eggs is eggs the raked stem of the old Norman hull snagged the cord and clanged the pair of canoes against the hull sides - the pair of which were now well out of short arses view. I was oblivious to the banging shouting and general commotion going on 25’ or so ahead of me 🙈 My mum and stepdad were only too aware of what was going on, stepdad comes out all in piss and takes control away from me lots of welly in reverse, plenty of swearing from everyone - mainly directed towards me - the miserable bastards! And no more steering for the rest of the day. To this day I maintain the adults in the canoe were the idiots, one child per adult per boat would have seemed a sensible idea rather than dragging the poor saps about - particularly with the prospect of me mowing them down
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Post by bargemast on Dec 23, 2018 21:38:55 GMT
Yes, I think that it would be good if Andrew buys this boat, much better than that it would go to someone we don't know the existence of. That would maybe also give us the occasion (if we would ever have that chance) to have a look at it ourselfs, one day or another. So we too can see the great visibility forward that this boat is giving the helms person Peter. I don't think he will end up buying it, I've heard it's got poor visability forward from the helm position. Who told you that BS ? Peter.
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Post by bargemast on Dec 23, 2018 21:45:34 GMT
This is not a bad thing, Personally I don't care if I squash a few rowers and kayakers that insist on swerving into the path of the boat. All this talk of restricted forward visibility and lack of stature in the height department reminded me of a story from when I was a Yoof of about 11 or 12 As a fully grown man I’m not the tallest bloke in the world - 5’ 7”, as such I wasn’t a very tall kid - that much is easy enough to extrapolate Mum and stepdad had a 45’ Hancock and Lane NB with a noisy old SR3 in it. To to get half a view forward (and manage the tiller comfortably) I had to stand on a milk crate. So far so good. Chugging down river on a hot sunny day mum and stepdad were inside attending to my little sister leaving me in charge, up ahead to the starboard bank was a pair of adults in a Canadian canoe, to the port bank two young kids in a double kayak. No problem thinks I - deep clear channel midstream with two canoes safely out the way either side, what I didn’t know was they were tied together with a bit of nylon cord. I couldn’t hear any shouting over the SR and I had fixed my gaze further ahead having dismissed the canoeists as no hazard. As sure as eggs is eggs the raked stem of the old Norman hull snagged the cord and clanged the pair of canoes against the hull sides - the pair of which were now well out of short arses view. I was oblivious to the banging shouting and general commotion going on 25’ or so ahead of me 🙈 My mum and stepdad were only too aware of what was going on, stepdad comes out all in piss and takes control away from me lots of welly in reverse, plenty of swearing from everyone - mainly directed towards me - the miserable bastards! And no more steering for the rest of the day. To this day I maintain the adults in the canoe were the idiots, one child per adult per boat would have seemed a sensible idea rather than dragging the poor saps about - particularly with the prospect of me mowing them down You're absolutely right gazza, the adults in the canoe were definitely the idiots. Btw I don't think that I would have been friends with your stepdad, as I think that he was most unreasonable with you there. Peter.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2018 21:50:11 GMT
All this talk of restricted forward visibility and lack of stature in the height department reminded me of a story from when I was a Yoof of about 11 or 12 As a fully grown man I’m not the tallest bloke in the world - 5’ 7”, as such I wasn’t a very tall kid - that much is easy enough to extrapolate Mum and stepdad had a 45’ Hancock and Lane NB with a noisy old SR3 in it. To to get half a view forward (and manage the tiller comfortably) I had to stand on a milk crate. So far so good. Chugging down river on a hot sunny day mum and stepdad were inside attending to my little sister leaving me in charge, up ahead to the starboard bank was a pair of adults in a Canadian canoe, to the port bank two young kids in a double kayak. No problem thinks I - deep clear channel midstream with two canoes safely out the way either side, what I didn’t know was they were tied together with a bit of nylon cord. I couldn’t hear any shouting over the SR and I had fixed my gaze further ahead having dismissed the canoeists as no hazard. As sure as eggs is eggs the raked stem of the old Norman hull snagged the cord and clanged the pair of canoes against the hull sides - the pair of which were now well out of short arses view. I was oblivious to the banging shouting and general commotion going on 25’ or so ahead of me 🙈 My mum and stepdad were only too aware of what was going on, stepdad comes out all in piss and takes control away from me lots of welly in reverse, plenty of swearing from everyone - mainly directed towards me - the miserable bastards! And no more steering for the rest of the day. To this day I maintain the adults in the canoe were the idiots, one child per adult per boat would have seemed a sensible idea rather than dragging the poor saps about - particularly with the prospect of me mowing them down You're absolutely right gazza, the adults in the canoe were definitely the idiots. Btw I don't think that I would have been friends with your stepdad, as I think that he was most unreasonable with you there. Peter. He’s a good old boy really, his biggest failing is having Scottish ancestry and a tendency towards having a needlessly short fuse - I was more annoyed at being relieved from steering duty than being shouted at!
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Post by kris on Dec 23, 2018 22:05:50 GMT
I don't think he will end up buying it, I've heard it's got poor visability forward from the helm position. Who told you that BS ? Peter. An online boat surveyor I know. He's very good send him a couple of photos and he'll tell you if the boats worth buying or not😃
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Post by kris on Dec 23, 2018 22:07:25 GMT
You're absolutely right gazza, the adults in the canoe were definitely the idiots. Btw I don't think that I would have been friends with your stepdad, as I think that he was most unreasonable with you there. Peter. He’s a good old boy really, his biggest failing is having Scottish ancestry and a tendency towards having a needlessly short fuse - I was more annoyed at being relieved from steering duty than being shouted at! The adults in the canoes where at fault, but if nobody is hurt no harm.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2018 6:52:25 GMT
Yes, I think that it would be good if Andrew buys this boat, much better than that it would go to someone we don't know the existence of. That would maybe also give us the occasion (if we would ever have that chance) to have a look at it ourselfs, one day or another. So we too can see the great visibility forward that this boat is giving the helms person Peter. I don't think he will end up buying it, I've heard it's got poor visability forward from the helm position. Ideally I would like it to satisfy the MCA requirements for fishing boats 15m-24m. This requires the skipper to be able to see the water surface 90m in front of the vessel from the helm. Its not a fishing boat but its still a good guideline I feel, personally. www.gov.uk/government/publications/mgn-314-wheelhouse-visibility-onboard-fishing-vesselsEasy enough to calculate it by working out the angle of view from skippers eyeball to the bow structure. Heights from waterline and distance between. then do the triangle calculation. Obviously one would need to be aboard the vessel to do this sort of measuring. Eta interestingly on a wooden boat the stem post does not count as an obstruction to visibility because it is a recognised structural member. The raised parts around the bows on a barge (not quite sure of the correct term is it still coamings?) are not structural so would be considered a problematic obstruction if they prevent the skipper eyeballing the waterline 90m in front -from the helm.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2018 11:32:21 GMT
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Post by kris on Dec 25, 2018 11:56:28 GMT
Amazing the lift is free as well. You see these quite regularly when a boat yard wants to get rid of a boat that's hanging around. But they usually want some return on it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2018 12:04:55 GMT
If its real then perhaps the situation is that it would cost them more to dispose of it than lift it with their yard crane. GRP is a bit of an awkward material to deal with probably attracting some labour costs as well as transport and landfill. Yard crane only costs them the price of the diesel at the end of the day.
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Post by bargemast on Dec 26, 2018 12:19:38 GMT
If its real then perhaps the situation is that it would cost them more to dispose of it than lift it with their yard crane. GRP is a bit of an awkward material to deal with probably attracting some labour costs as well as transport and landfill. Yard crane only costs them the price of the diesel at the end of the day. I think that that's exactly why they want to give it away. I will keep an eye on this ad, as soon as they'll pay for the transport aswell, I will bite their hand(s) off and say "Yes please" Peter.
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