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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2018 12:55:24 GMT
Gas free is weird.
I don't really understand it. I could see the object if gas explosions on board were common but they simply aren't. They are very very rare.
Maybe it goes back to the older appliances which did not have flame failure devices. And gas fridges.
With a properly fitted gas system its just not a problem.
Takes all sorts I guess but it is a nuisance for anyone moored nearby when they are disturbed by the "silent" generator. OK so it has a diesel cooker as well but the temptation would exist to use the generator in summer me thinks
A bit silly really.
Being disturbed by someone else's generator sometimes makes me want to slap them in the face with a dead rodent.
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Post by JohnV on Dec 31, 2018 13:16:31 GMT
Sabina H is a "no gas vessel" and it seems to work out ok .... The battery system will run a basic cooking system (1 ring on the hob, a mini oven, a small electric kettle, toaster, slow cooker etc .... just not all a once)
Full cooking requires either the Rayburn to be on or the generator running but as this is a built in one it is very quiet compared to the normal external ones you hear. anyway cooking times are likely to be fairly early in the evening and certainly not outside the 8 till 8 time frame
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Post by bargemast on Dec 31, 2018 13:16:51 GMT
Gas free is weird. I don't really understand it. I could see the object if gas explosions on board were common but they simply aren't. They are very very rare. Maybe it goes back to the older appliances which did not have flame failure devices. And gas fridges. With a properly fitted gas system its just not a problem. Takes all sorts I guess but it is a nuisance for anyone moored nearby when they are disturbed by the "silent" generator. OK so it has a diesel cooker as well but the temptation would exist to use the generator in summer me thinks A bit silly really. Being disturbed by someone else's generator sometimes makes me want to slap them in the face with a dead rodent. Do you think that they would understand why you slapped them in their face with a dead rodent ? Peter.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2018 13:36:02 GMT
Its easier to hold than a dead fish.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2018 13:38:28 GMT
Sabina H is a "no gas vessel" and it seems to work out ok .... The battery system will run a basic cooking system (1 ring on the hob, a mini oven, a small electric kettle, toaster, slow cooker etc .... just not all a once) Full cooking requires either the Rayburn to be on or the generator running but as this is a built in one it is very quiet compared to the normal external ones you hear. anyway cooking times are likely to be fairly early in the evening and certainly not outside the 8 till 8 time frame Why didn't you put gas on it? Did you just not feel it was required? To clarify before dead rodent contact I would make attempts to interact with the miscreant in a good natured way and possibly offer to help their generator life by adding some load to it with my battery charger.
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Post by bargemast on Dec 31, 2018 13:47:12 GMT
Sabina H is a "no gas vessel" and it seems to work out ok .... The battery system will run a basic cooking system (1 ring on the hob, a mini oven, a small electric kettle, toaster, slow cooker etc .... just not all a once) Full cooking requires either the Rayburn to be on or the generator running but as this is a built in one it is very quiet compared to the normal external ones you hear. anyway cooking times are likely to be fairly early in the evening and certainly not outside the 8 till 8 time frame Why didn't you put gas on it? Did you just not feel it was required? To clarify before dead rodent contact I would make attempts to interact with the miscreant in a good natured way and possibly offer to help their generator life by adding some load to it with my battery charger. Of course this would only be possible if they moor very close to you, which is not further away than the lenght of an extension lead, and only if you're on your mooring with shorepower. Peter.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2018 13:49:40 GMT
Not forgetting the plant pot to earth it all.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2018 13:52:57 GMT
No I store the dead rodent in a velvet lined brass box with dessicant in there to avoid the need for burial.
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Post by JohnV on Dec 31, 2018 14:00:22 GMT
Sabina H is a "no gas vessel" and it seems to work out ok .... The battery system will run a basic cooking system (1 ring on the hob, a mini oven, a small electric kettle, toaster, slow cooker etc .... just not all a once) Full cooking requires either the Rayburn to be on or the generator running but as this is a built in one it is very quiet compared to the normal external ones you hear. anyway cooking times are likely to be fairly early in the evening and certainly not outside the 8 till 8 time frame Why didn't you put gas on it? Did you just not feel it was required? It was one less avoidable hazard ...... same way I would not have a petrol generator. The only petrol on board is a 1 gallon can stored on deck, in the dinghy for it's outboard
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Post by JohnV on Dec 31, 2018 14:03:05 GMT
I should add, I am not fanatic about it .... Shapfell has gas both for cooking/water heating and space heating.
On a 25.5 foot boat it is the practical answer
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2018 14:10:38 GMT
Ah you have saved me from implying that you are weird. Ta
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Post by Jim on Dec 31, 2018 17:40:22 GMT
No I store the dead rodent in a velvet lined brass box with dessicant in there to avoid the need for burial. Too late now, I could have supplied you with a few large rats, deaded obvs. No sign of any at the moment. They are partial to peanuts in a cage trap. I despatch them quickly with a 22 pellet in the head. An alternative is a carrot up the exhaust.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2018 17:43:39 GMT
A lot of these generators on boats are specifically designed to route the exhaust below water. They say it is to reduce noise but I know that's not the real reason .
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Post by Jim on Dec 31, 2018 18:04:14 GMT
A lot of these generators on boats are specifically designed to route the exhaust below water. They say it is to reduce noise but I know that's not the real reason . A carrot on a stick might do it. Donkey may have spares.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2018 18:09:03 GMT
I should give advance warning that this is quite technical. This is quite technical. The way that the water/gas separators work on built in water cooled marine generators means that if you were to deliberately block the gas outlet the gas would simply be diverted to the water outlet due to the design of the separator. You are going to need two carrots
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