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Post by Jim on Jan 25, 2019 13:25:12 GMT
I'm awaiting legal advice from Nigel. He's busy planning. Cue @gazza.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2019 14:00:35 GMT
I'm awaiting legal advice from Nigel. He's busy planning. Cue @gazza . He is busy slinging magnets in the river Oh, hang on, the other Nigel!
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Post by kris on Jan 25, 2019 14:39:58 GMT
I'm awaiting legal advice from Nigel. What legal advice do you need? You know it's dubious, so knock the vendor down to about £12000. Buy it in a Mickey Mouse name. By your reckoning of how much money they make after six months everything is profit. So if you can get away with it for 3 years your quids in.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2019 18:46:58 GMT
Its complicated. I do not have a tugboat to tow it with. The one on Alan Pease with the big 250hp Leyland might do the job though.
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Post by kris on Jan 25, 2019 19:39:31 GMT
Its complicated. I do not have a tugboat to tow it with. The one on Alan Pease with the big 250hp Leyland might do the job though. still you know the bussiness model works and by your own calculations the other person running a bussiness like this has made Alot of money.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2019 19:57:31 GMT
Yes but I believe he is having some notable legal problems currently. The validity of the model may have expired. After all it was this which caused Dom Raab to set up this nasty DEFRA group looking at balancing the interests of people living on boats against waterway users So I believe it may be best to leave the big old barge alone and let it get towed back down to barking creek where the scrap man is waiting for it.
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Post by kris on Jan 25, 2019 20:02:40 GMT
Your probably right,
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2019 20:08:20 GMT
Yes and to be honest arranging other peoples accommodation is not really my cup of tea anyway. It would be quite a good boat for the teddington to Sunbury stretch of the Thames as it just happens to fit in the locks. There are no boats anywhere near that big up there but those two locks are large enough. Sunbury is approx 47x5.8m. Interestingly although all of the existing multiple occupancy boats in the area would fit through Sunbury they never have because the business revolves around fast rail links to London. So the Vriendschap would actually be a valid addition to the existing fleet. Watch that space
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2019 11:57:43 GMT
The boat is at Gallions point marina.. interestingly the access lock is 6.6m wide ... There is also a much larger ship lock accessing the same water by a slightly different route but I think its probably come in via this lock at high tide so I'm sticking with the 6.6m beam
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Post by kris on Jan 26, 2019 12:02:57 GMT
No photos?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2019 13:56:50 GMT
Coming up. Phone battery ran out. On charge now.
I did get a couple of pictures. Its on a gated industrial site beside the marina (Corbyn construction) so not possible to get very good closeup images.
Can't upload them for some reason. I'll try later.
It looks very much like scrap to my untrained eye.
Its almost 100 years old (1926 Kempenaar) so it seems probable that some remedial hull works may be needed which would be expensive. It does seem to be happily afloat though to be fair.
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Post by bargemast on Jan 26, 2019 14:32:35 GMT
Coming up. Phone battery ran out. On charge now. I did get a couple of pictures. Its on a gated industrial site beside the marina (Corbyn construction) so not possible to get very good closeup images. Can't upload them for some reason. I'll try later. It looks very much like scrap to my untrained eye. Its almost 100 years old (1926 Kempenaar) so it seems probable that some remedial hull works may be needed which would be expensive. It does seem to be happily afloat though to be fair. You have to be very careful with these old barges, as they don't seem to age very well . Here's one of these bad examples, built in 1889 and acitive in cargo transporting through the Netherlands, Belgium and Germany until 2003. It didn't get scrapped though, but started a new life in Poland. I've known a barge of over 100 years old that still had it's original bottom, and that was still plenty thick enough to continue with. www.binnenvaart.eu/sleepvrachtschip/19384-armand.html Peter.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2019 14:45:02 GMT
Tried another registrsation-free image hosting called upl.co. seems to work a lot better than tiny pic. I guess there is a catch like the image gets converted to an advert later on. Eta looking at the 360 in the background in the first of my images I am wondering if this vessel may become the labour party campaign ship for the upcoming general election.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2019 14:50:11 GMT
You have to be very careful with these old barges, as they don't seem to age very well . Yes. The ad says its 1926 but it looks older.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2019 18:47:17 GMT
The Dutch have considerably more interesting sounding names for boat types than we get in England. Eta the barge in your link is apparently 8.25m wide ! I think this could be a typo.
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