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Post by Telemachus on Aug 11, 2023 10:54:35 GMT
So can we take it that you offered him help? A bed for the night, perhaps? Or even a stale sandwich? No, I thought not. Is that you throwing the first stone ? Loads of room here for you to tell us of your input to resolving his plight. But of course like me and most others here ,there's nothing to say. For my part you comply or leave ... it's not a difficult choice. Rog No it was me responding to a classic piece of virtue signalling. Someone was in difficulty, "they" should have helped him. Whilst the author had done nothing themselves other than talk about it. But of course I agree with the latter part of your post.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2023 18:48:19 GMT
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Post by kris on Aug 16, 2023 18:58:34 GMT
Seems like he’s learning He says he is not willing to reveal what his plans are for the future.
“I am not prepared to say where I am or what I am doing,” said Mr Ward, who is registered disabled and claims benefits.
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Post by Aloysius on Aug 16, 2023 19:03:36 GMT
That makes two of us.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2023 19:31:24 GMT
The thing is with the community law lot, they continuously use echr in their arguments, and quite frankly it's a waste of time and effort.
Edited, having looked through my files, it is one and the same guy.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2023 19:35:56 GMT
I think he'll just fuck off into the yonder, and that's the last we'll see or hear of him.
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Post by kris on Aug 17, 2023 7:21:16 GMT
It wasn’t a good idea to say he’s living on farmers land with permission. Because that still breaks planing laws, so if someone complains he will be off. It sounds like the van isn’t road legal. If anything this case highlights the housing situation in this country people like mr ward have to live somewhere and there just isn’t enough suitable housing available. So people are living in boats and vans more frequently, these are the ones who can get something together. The ones who can’t are in tents under bridges. This is a situation that is only going to grow, we will see an increase of informal settlements on the outskirts of towns and cities. Just look at America. If you don’t like this I’d suggest you lobby the goverment for changes in policy. Rather than blame the individuals trapped in these situations.
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Post by Telemachus on Aug 17, 2023 7:53:42 GMT
It wasn’t a good idea to say he’s living on farmers land with permission. Because that still breaks planing laws, so if someone complains he will be off. It sounds like the van isn’t road legal. If anything this case highlights the housing situation in this country people like mr ward have to live somewhere and there just isn’t enough suitable housing available. So people are living in boats and vans more frequently, these are the ones who can get something together. The ones who can’t are in tents under bridges. This is a situation that is only going to grow, we will see an increase of informal settlements on the outskirts of towns and cities. Just look at America. If you don’t like this I’d suggest you lobby the goverment for changes in policy. Rather than blame the individuals trapped in these situations. Agreed. The trouble is that whenever anyone wants to build houses, there is a massive backlash from the local NIMBYs. My sister and I own a small field in Warwickshire, it’s part of a parcel of land between the small town and the bypass so anyone looking at a map would think it a prime candidate for housing, but this has been going on for 30 years and still no planning permission. The way things are going I’ll be dead before I get some money out of it.
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Post by on Aug 17, 2023 10:09:20 GMT
It isn't that simple with someone who is pushing the law in an organised way like Mr Ward was. He wasn't some unfortunate disorganised person he was basically trying to get the land by adverse possession and failed. Someone disorganised and dishevelled is unlikely to ask for their case to be reviewed in House of Parliament and Lords select committees. He knew exactly what he was doing and when the endgame came he lost out. I hope the 'farmer' knows his MO because he will be importing shite and junk and the place will look like a scrapyard. it is bound to happen but when people start moving to the land and placing items on it this is the beginning of major problems because it indicates an intention to possess. Some background going back to BW days . www.communitylawpartnership.co.uk/gypsy-and-traveller-cases/boat-cases/british-waterways-board-v-ward "Mr Ward sought to reply on proceedings in House of Commons and House of Lords Select Committees but the judge ruled that these matters did not come within the criteria laid down in Pepper v Hart."
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Post by on Aug 17, 2023 10:18:50 GMT
An obvious question:
"Now that it has been established that you are not allowed to be there do you intend to arrange for the removal of your possessions from the land?"
It is the use of land which causes the problem precisely because of the existence of adverse possession in the first place.
It probably wouldn't work but someone people might be drawn in to the idea of freely owning a parcel of land and behave in such a way as to cause this outcome.
In the meantime you get a buildup of waste which the land owner has to then pay to get rid of.
CRT really need to be hot on land use and just be completely zero tolerance about it.
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Post by on Aug 17, 2023 10:32:57 GMT
It has got a slight whiff of TD about this story. He (Ward) said: “I emailed the court to say the papers had been incorrectly served but they went ahead."
TD spent a lot of time going on and on about incorrectly served papers. I reckon he's told this bloke "they can't do that" only to find they actually did do it.
The dangers of the internet?
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Post by fi on Aug 17, 2023 10:39:03 GMT
Just got an email from CRT (sent to all mooring holders on these moorings) - essentially the email says get your crap off our land (towpath) or we won't offer to renew your mooring. Did make me smile a bit - there will be some outraged moorers...!
Even the fake grass has to go...
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Post by on Aug 17, 2023 10:44:42 GMT
It is in the mooring contract that you are not allowed to hang place or keep any items on the mooring site.
They do it from time to time with my London mooring but it is generally if they want to take photos when a mooring becomes available for the auction process.
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Post by on Aug 17, 2023 10:46:55 GMT
Just got an email from CRT (sent to all mooring holders on these moorings) - essentially the email says get your crap off our land (towpath) or we won't offer to renew your mooring. Did make me smile a bit - there will be some outraged moorers...!
Even the fake grass has to go...
If I am thinking of the same site there wre some very established gardens there. CRT flexing its land ownership muscles? About time really. Could get interesting in some areas.
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