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Post by quaysider on Mar 9, 2023 9:31:10 GMT
My booking form matches crt standedge tunnel rules = 6 ft ladder and walk 1km
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Post by Telemachus on Mar 9, 2023 13:56:13 GMT
PLEASE don't be unrealistic about your mobility. It's one thing to be a bit unsteady and need the occasional 'hoik' (I love that word) but if you (or your travelling partner ) is deemed by the Capt. as unable to exit the boat quickly in the event of an emergency, on arrival the trip will be cancelled, you will be asked to leave and have no money refunded. This statement has been added for 2023 (and beyond) after several unfortunate experiences last year. Narrowboat Ellis is a boating holiday - NOT Respite Care! All quite reasonable. But you so isn't a Captain. Perhaps a Master. Why not captain?
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Post by Aloysius on Mar 9, 2023 14:18:00 GMT
All quite reasonable. But you so isn't a Captain. Perhaps a Master. Why not captain? Captain is a rank, as opposed to Master, which is a title.
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Post by on Mar 9, 2023 14:58:00 GMT
Master also sounds far better than Captain.
Captain has too much of a comic strip feel. Captain Haddock, Captain Pugwash etc.
Master, or even better Lord, is more apt I think.
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Post by Jim on Mar 9, 2023 17:59:43 GMT
PLEASE don't be unrealistic about your mobility. It's one thing to be a bit unsteady and need the occasional 'hoik' (I love that word) but if you (or your travelling partner ) is deemed by the Capt. as unable to exit the boat quickly in the event of an emergency, on arrival the trip will be cancelled, you will be asked to leave and have no money refunded. This statement has been added for 2023 (and beyond) after several unfortunate experiences last year. Narrowboat Ellis is a boating holiday - NOT Respite Care! All quite reasonable. But you so isn't a Captain. Perhaps a Master. He's baiting you.
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Post by naughtyfox on Mar 12, 2023 15:18:07 GMT
It's not great for a new business to tell the whole world your customers are smelly soap-dodgers. the master of the vessel That sounds rather grand! How does not having a shower every day constitute "danger of damage or injury to persons or property whilst travelling with us" ??
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Post by naughtyfox on Mar 12, 2023 15:21:11 GMT
Captain is a rank, as opposed to Master, which is a title. 'Master Boater' lol
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Post by naughtyfox on Mar 12, 2023 15:25:09 GMT
Master also sounds far better than Captain. Captain has too much of a comic strip feel. Captain Haddock, Captain Pugwash etc. Master, or even better Lord, is more apt I think. We had labels made for our shirts: Commander Turner and Commander Stenberg. As we were the commanders of our vessels. In the tradition of South African Airways who call their pilots 'commanders' rather than 'captains'. The Boers gave the British Army a thrashing, and it was quite embarrassing. Eventually the poofter Kitchener imprisoned their wives and children into concentration camps and starved them to death. They talk about Auschwitz and the Nazis but it was the British who invented the concentration extermination camp.
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Post by Jim on Mar 16, 2023 15:49:16 GMT
Captain is a rank, as opposed to Master, which is a title. 'Master Boater' lol You are even copying my jokes now. Twat. Make up your own. Commander of the sweaty armpit!
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Mar 17, 2023 8:11:29 GMT
'Afternoon, Only me... just thought I'd pop by and post up my routes for next year so anyone NOT wanting to get stuck behind a stoppage, can plan accordingly. I'm not looking forward to trips 2,3 and 4 (Tidal Trent) but after that, it'll be a nice jaunt. There's nothing to fear from the Trent, . . provided the standard C&RT rubbish passage planning/timing advice is ignored and replaced with something that avoids entry into the sidelocks at Stockwith and Keadby at the worst possible times - ie. late on the Ebb with next to no depth of water in the lock tails - or involves passing high risk locations such as Marton Rack, and others, at around local High Water. Post up the days you're going to be on the river below Cromwell, when the time comes, and I'll tell you when you should be getting underway so as to minimize any chances of grounding anywhere at or near local HW on a falling tide, . . and to give you the easiest possible conditions in which to go in at Stockwith or Keadby. There is in fact something about the lower (tidal) Trent that should definitely be on the 'to fear' list, . . it's misleading, highly irresponsible comments or opinions from stupid people who, after one or two short trips on it, think they know enough about the lower tidal Trent to start dishing out ill-informed but reasurring sounding advice about it. Two people, ianali and telemachus, with their joint vast experience of, as far as I know, a total of three outings on the Trent lowside of Cromwell between them, . . took it on themselves to assure quaysider (on TheUnstableBar) that the lower tidal reaches were - quote - "no big deal", . . which is a pretty stupid and irresponsible thing to tell someone else whose very limited experience and knowledge of the lower Trent is about on a par with their own. The standard rubbish advice from the new generation of C&RT know-nothing so-called lock keepers usually results in the recipients of their crap advice passing along Marton Rack at or around local HW, and the low end of Knaith Rack/West Burton/Cheese House shallows soon afterwards. Anyone even slightly out of the deepwater channel at around those times at any of those places in particular, . . is quite likely to find that grounding around there with a narrow canal boat turns out to be quite a 'big deal' after all. Especially if there's very little fresh in the river, . . and the tides are biggish Springs, . . big enough in those circumstances to push a sizeable Aegre up well above Gainsborough. My efforts to convey this warning via the pages of TheUnstableBar last night were zapped and obliterated within minutes of posting, . . in true CWDF style. Not really the sort of behaviour you'd hope for from the Admin staff of a genuine boating forum, . . is it !
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Post by Telemachus on Mar 17, 2023 8:30:26 GMT
There's nothing to fear from the Trent, . . provided the standard C&RT rubbish passage planning/timing advice is ignored and replaced with something that avoids entry into the sidelocks at Stockwith and Keadby at the worst possible times - ie. late on the Ebb with next to no depth of water in the lock tails - or involves passing high risk locations such as Marton Rack, and others, at around local High Water. Post up the days you're going to be on the river below Cromwell, when the time comes, and I'll tell you when you should be getting underway so as to minimize any chances of grounding anywhere at or near local HW on a falling tide, . . and to give you the easiest possible conditions in which to go in at Stockwith or Keadby. There is in fact something about the lower (tidal) Trent that should definitely be on the 'to fear' list, . . it's misleading, highly irresponsible comments or opinions from stupid people who, after one or two short trips on it, think they know enough about the lower tidal Trent to start dishing out ill-informed but reasurring sounding advice about it. Two people, ianali and telemachus, with their joint vast experience of, as far as I know, a total of three outings on the Trent lowside of Cromwell between them, . . took it on themselves to assure quaysider (on TheUnstableBar) that the lower tidal reaches were - quote - "no big deal", . . which is a pretty stupid and irresponsible thing to tell someone else whose very limited experience and knowledge of the lower Trent is about on a par with their own. The standard rubbish advice from the new generation of C&RT know-nothing so-called lock keepers usually results in the recipients of their crap advice passing along Marton Rack at or around local HW, and the low end of Knaith Rack/West Burton/Cheese House shallows soon afterwards. Anyone even slightly out of the deepwater channel at around those times at any of those places in particular, . . is quite likely to find that grounding around there with a narrow canal boat turns out to be quite a 'big deal' after all. Especially if there's very little fresh in the river, . . and the tides are biggish Springs, . . big enough in those circumstances to push a sizeable Aegre up well above Gainsborough. My efforts to convey this warning via the pages of TheUnstableBar last night were zapped and obliterated within minutes of posting, . . in true CWDF style. Not really the sort of behaviour you'd hope for from the Admin staff of a genuine boating forum, . . is it ! It’s certainly true that I have very limited experience of the tidal Trent. However I based my comment not just on my personal experience but on the fact that hundreds, maybe thousands, of such trips are made each year using the CRT strategy, none (or virtually none) of them has ended in a serious problem (sinking or other major damage). A few people have gone aground but been refloated later which is not really a massive deal. Those people failed to carry out basic common sense by eg cutting corners or not reviewing the route on the Boating Association maps or not observing the signage. Perhaps I am not aware of events which have caused serious problems in the areas you mention, but unless you can provide evidence to the contrary I am going to assume that these risks, whilst definitely extant, are easily avoided by taking the most basic of precautions and generic boating practice, especially in a narrowboat drawing only 2 1/2 feet or so.
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Post by naughtyfox on Mar 17, 2023 8:34:55 GMT
It's the River Trent, not Nagasaki in 1944.
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Post by kris on Mar 17, 2023 9:24:52 GMT
It’s good to know that Tony can post on TUB now and that John is dealing with him.
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Post by kris on Mar 17, 2023 9:27:20 GMT
My efforts to convey this warning via the pages of TheUnstableBar last night were zapped and obliterated within minutes of posting, . . in true CWDF style. Not really the sort of behaviour you'd hope for from the Admin staff of a genuine boating forum, . . is it ! Are you sure you didn’t get insult anyone?
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Post by Telemachus on Mar 17, 2023 9:30:40 GMT
I didn’t see it but if it was a copy of what Tony posted above, it would have breached the “no personal insults” philosophy of TUB.
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