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Post by kris on Feb 25, 2023 22:06:17 GMT
To be fair, he’s right about the police informing the public when they are filming and he educated the Sargent about the law around drones. I think if he hadn’t been filming it would have gone differently. I wonder how Tony’s case would have been different, if he had appproached his interaction with authority in the same way. Funnily enough Tony came to mind as I was watching it. There seems to be some validity in challenging the posture of some coppers. I could think of a few situations in the past which would have had a significantly different outcome had body-cams been available. There's another vid by the same guy where he has someone in tow who speaks with a Jafaiken accent who is clearly nowhere nearly so well-informed (or loquacious)... . I think we was good at being clear and calm with the police, which I think Tony wouldn’t be able to do. But if he had got film footage then he would at least have some proof of what occurred. Rather than it being his word against all of the other people there on the day.
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Post by Aloysius on Feb 25, 2023 22:12:37 GMT
Funnily enough Tony came to mind as I was watching it. There seems to be some validity in challenging the posture of some coppers. I could think of a few situations in the past which would have had a significantly different outcome had body-cams been available. There's another vid by the same guy where he has someone in tow who speaks with a Jafaiken accent who is clearly nowhere nearly so well-informed (or loquacious)... . I think we was good at being clear and calm with the police Also he carefully sets things up to fit his agenda...
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Post by Mr Stabby on Feb 25, 2023 22:20:14 GMT
Funnily enough Tony came to mind as I was watching it. There seems to be some validity in challenging the posture of some coppers. I could think of a few situations in the past which would have had a significantly different outcome had body-cams been available. There's another vid by the same guy where he has someone in tow who speaks with a Jafaiken accent who is clearly nowhere nearly so well-informed (or loquacious)... . I think we was good at being clear and calm with the police, which I think Tony wouldn’t be able to do. But if he had got film footage then he would at least have some proof of what occurred. Rather than it being his word against all of the other people there on the day. The Nottinghamshire police officers present when Halcyon Daze was towed away weren't there to make a legal judgement, that had already taken place. Their only instruction would have been to prevent a breach of the peace while a lawful legal process was executed.
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Post by kris on Feb 25, 2023 22:23:05 GMT
. I think we was good at being clear and calm with the police, which I think Tony wouldn’t be able to do. But if he had got film footage then he would at least have some proof of what occurred. Rather than it being his word against all of the other people there on the day. The Nottinghamshire police officers present when Halcyon Daze was towed away weren't there to make a legal judgement, that had already taken place. Their only instruction would have been to prevent a breach of the peace while a lawful legal process was executed. Yes I understand that. I’m aware of the way the law works. But if Tony had filmed it, he would have more evidence than he does now.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Feb 25, 2023 23:03:10 GMT
The Nottinghamshire police officers present when Halcyon Daze was towed away weren't there to make a legal judgement, that had already taken place. Their only instruction would have been to prevent a breach of the peace while a lawful legal process was executed. Yes I understand that. I’m aware of the way the law works. But if Tony had filmed it, he would have more evidence than he does now. Had he filmed the encounter, Tony Dunkley would have evidence of a group of people doing their jobs properly, politely and efficiently in accordance with a legally-issued Court Order, and evidence of himself acting in a highly confrontational and belligerent manner to the point where he had to be threatened with arrest, although I'm not entirely sure how this would help his cause.
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Post by brummieboy on Feb 26, 2023 19:20:17 GMT
Is there not a chance that there is film of Tony's altercation? I thought Police in public facing circumstances wore body cameras.
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Post by Aloysius on Feb 26, 2023 20:03:25 GMT
Is there not a chance that there is film of Tony's altercation? I thought Police in public facing circumstances wore body cameras. A copy of footage captured by police body cams is supposed to be available upon request, but it's likely there's an expiration date on it. And it's a while ago since the event so sadly I expect it's lost forever. What a shame.
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Feb 27, 2023 14:41:42 GMT
Is there not a chance that there is film of Tony's altercation? I thought Police in public facing circumstances wore body cameras. Describing the helpfully active part taken by four thick ill-trained Police officers in the unlawful/fraudulent seizure of Halcyon Daze on 22 October 2020 as an 'altercation' is misleading and inappropriate, to say the least. In answer to your question, however, . . yes, there was footage, and audio, of all three of my attempts to persuade the Nottinghamshire thickies to firstly check and verify the bogus Bailiff's credentials, and secondly to check and verify the true nature, power, and scope of the Court Order that C&RT's bogus Bailiffs, and 'Licence/Customer Support Supervisor', were fraudulently, and in contempt of Court, passing off as a Court issued Warrant or Writ of Control authorizing, and ordering, the seizure of the named craft. There was no Police footage, or audio, of me throwing the bogus Bailffs off my boat, . . the Police were called immediately after that by S. Garner, the C&RT Licence/Customer Support Supervisor, . . who had arrived expecting the boat to be unoccupied.
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Post by Aloysius on Feb 27, 2023 15:34:17 GMT
You are again missing the obvious truth that we don't really give a crap about your current version of events but simply would have liked to view any footage solely for purposes of amusement.
Incidentally, some of us recall that it was stated you arrived on site shortly after the appearance of Garner and co., having been alerted by parties unknown. But, to use the popular idiom, whatever.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Feb 27, 2023 16:56:33 GMT
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Post by on Feb 27, 2023 17:21:34 GMT
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Feb 27, 2023 17:29:37 GMT
You are again missing the obvious truth that we don't really give a crap about your current version of events but simply would have liked to view any footage solely for purposes of amusement. Incidentally, some of us recall that it was stated you arrived on site shortly after the appearance of Garner and co., having been alerted by parties unknown. But, to use the popular idiom, whatever. . . . and you are missing the point that nothing I post here, or anywhere else, is directed at or for the benefit of you or any of the other mindless arseholes who debase Thunderboat with their presence. As for your reference to what was 'stated' about me not being aboard Halcyon Daze when C&RT's S.Garner and the bogus Bailiffs provided by Commercial Boat Services first arrived -- what you are now misrepresenting as fact, was NEVER, EVER stated by me at all, . . but is in truth pure malicious invention posted by either that lying little shit, Kris Nadin, or that other lying psychopath, Vince (Shit-for-Brains) Coventon. I do hope that one day I'll meet you in person.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Feb 27, 2023 17:35:49 GMT
You are again missing the obvious truth that we don't really give a crap about your current version of events but simply would have liked to view any footage solely for purposes of amusement. Incidentally, some of us recall that it was stated you arrived on site shortly after the appearance of Garner and co., having been alerted by parties unknown. But, to use the popular idiom, whatever. Vince (Shit-for-Brains) Coventon. A.K.DUNKLEY/ TONY DUNKLEY - Paedophile, child molester. Three convictions for sexual offences against children, five convictions for theft.
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Post by kris on Feb 27, 2023 18:04:27 GMT
You are again missing the obvious truth that we don't really give a crap about your current version of events but simply would have liked to view any footage solely for purposes of amusement. Incidentally, some of us recall that it was stated you arrived on site shortly after the appearance of Garner and co., having been alerted by parties unknown. But, to use the popular idiom, whatever. . . . and you are missing the point that nothing I post here, or anywhere else, is directed at or for the benefit of you or any of the other mindless arseholes who debase Thunderboat with their presence. So just for interest Tony, who are you posting all this stuff for?
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Post by Aloysius on Feb 27, 2023 18:10:53 GMT
. . . and you are missing the point that nothing I post here, or anywhere else, is directed at or for the benefit of you or any of the other mindless arseholes who debase Thunderboat with their presence. So just for interest Tony, who are you posting all this stuff for? He's documenting legal evidence of course.
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