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Post by Mr Stabby on Mar 2, 2023 11:29:12 GMT
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Mar 2, 2023 12:01:19 GMT
You know very well what it means. No, . . I don't. You need to explain, . . in a post, . . so I can get a screenshot of it.
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Mar 2, 2023 12:12:21 GMT
Four uncomfortable (for C&RT) facts relating to multiple criminal offences of fraud, theft, and contempt of Court that C&RT CEO Richard Parry, Company Secretary Tom Deards, contractor Brian Clarke (Commercial Boat Services), and a number of C&RT employees, think that they've got away with :- 1) There is nothing in any of C&RT's governing legislation, or in other statute, or in common law that entitles it to seize, retain possession of, and sell or dispose of, any vessel that's owned by a known, contactable owner. 2) No Court has ever made an Order authorizing C&RT, or an agent of the C&RT, to take possession of - ie. seize - and then sell anyone's vessel and property. 3) My boat, Halcyon Daze, was unlawfully seized on 22 October 2020 by bogus Bailiffs presenting themselves as bona fide Officers of the Court, working under the direct supervision and instructions of C&RT employee Stuart Garner, but supplied/contracted to the C&RT by the Trust CEO's and Company Secretary's favourite crooked contractor, Brian Clarke of Commercial Boat Services of Chester. 4) The bogus Bailiffs and the C&RT employee, Stuart Garner, were reported to the Police for fraudulently and in contempt of Court misrepresenting and passing off themselves as Court authorized Enforcement Officers and misrepresenting and passing off a Court Order for Declaratory and Injunctive Relief as a Court issued Warrant of Execution to seize and remove goods. In the event the Police subsequently took no further action after interviewing S.Garner, . . and swallowing the well rehearsed pack of lies and misdirections in which he had been coached by the crooked C&RT legal department headed by Company Secretary Tom Deards. Anyone doubting the truth of 2) above is invited to disprove it by way of posting, or providing a link to, any Court Order that states otherwise. C&RT's crooked management and bent lawyers have been invited so to do on numerous occasions, . . but have always declined and been unable to do anything other than to bluster and reiterate the lies they have knowingly and consistently 'sold' to the boating public, and the Courts. < canalrivertrust.org.uk/the-publication-scheme/governance/legal-documents/court-action-to-remove-boats-from-our-waterways > C&RT's sole reason for obtaining these Court Orders is not as told in the hypocritical dishonest piffle that is published on the Licensing/Enforcement pages of its website but is simply for the purpose of obtaining a piece of paper, complete with Court Seal, and the magic words - "If you do not obey Paragraphs 2 and 3 of this Order then you may be held in contempt of court and imprisoned or fined, or your assets may be seized." - printed one side of it. These pieces of paper - C&RT's much vaunted 'Court Orders' - are then fraudulently, in contempt of Court and due process, misrepresented to both the Police and the unfortunate targeted boatowner to facilitate what is in truth the wholly unlawful seizure of his or her boat/home by C&RT management's squads of bogus Bailiffs, thieving contractors, and lying Customer/Licence Support Officers.
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Post by Jim on Mar 2, 2023 12:42:43 GMT
[Edited/expanded] What a remarkable coincidence ! Vince (Shit-for-Brains) Coventon is fooled, along with all the rest of Thunderboat's other mental cripples, by the very same wording that C&RT's crooked lawyers and bogus Bailiffs rely on to fool targeted boatowners, . . and to con thick inadequately trained Police officers into actively assisting them in unlawful boat seizures. The wording in question is :- " If you do not obey Paragraphs 2 and 3 of this Order then you may be held in contempt of court and imprisoned or fined, or your assets may be seized." - and is to be found on every one of the flawed, ultra vires, and therefore voidable Court Orders that C&RT dishonestly obtain under Part 8 of the Civil Procedure Rules That same warning, in the same or very similar form of words, appears on many of the numerous different types of County Court Orders, . . and invariably appears on the Orders for Declaratory and Injunctive Relief that are obtained by the C&RT for the sole purpose of using those Orders to knowingly in contempt of Court, fraudulently, and unlawfully seize and subsequently dispose of the Defendant's boat. The 'seizure' of a Defendant's assets is in fact a sanction reserved for the Court alone to impose, in the event of the Defendant failing to comply with the terms of an Order, . . it is NOT, under any circumstances, a sanction that is available to a successful Claimant - in these cases, the C&RT - to impose themselves as they see fit. In the event of non-compliance with paragraphs 2 and 3 of the Order(s) on the part of the Defendant, the correct and only lawful procedure is for the Claimant (C&RT) to apply to the Court asking for the Court to enforce the Order together with whatever form of sanction (imprisonment, fine, or seizure of assets) it deems fit to impose. C&RT's sole reason for obtaining these Court Orders is not as told in the hypocritical dishonest piffle that is published on the Licensing/Enforcement pages of its website -- < canalrivertrust.org.uk/the-publication-scheme/governance/legal-documents/court-action-to-remove-boats-from-our-waterways > -- but is simply for the purpose of obtaining a piece of paper, complete with Court Seal, and the magic words - " If you do not obey Paragraphs 2 and 3 of this Order then you may be held in contempt of court and imprisoned or fined, or your assets may be seized." - printed one side of it. These pieces of paper - C&RT's much vaunted 'Court Orders' - are then fraudulently, in contempt of Court and due process, misrepresented to both the Police and the unfortunate targeted boatowner to facilitate what is in truth the wholly unlawful seizure of his or her boat/home by C&RT management's squads of bogus Bailiffs, thieving contractors, and lying Customer/Licence Support Officers. So why didn't you stop them taking your boat?
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Post by kris on Mar 2, 2023 13:01:51 GMT
You know very well what it means. No, . . I don't. You need to explain, . . in a post, . . so I can get a screenshot of it. If you don’t know that you fucked up over Shelby micheal by now, then nothing I Write is going to change that.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Mar 2, 2023 13:40:18 GMT
You know very well what it means. No, . . I don't. You need to explain, . . in a post, . . so I can get a screenshot of it. Please allow me to help. Kris is referring to you deliberately untying Selby Michael and setting it adrift in order to cause damage to other boats and waterways structures and then pretending that CRT had done it.
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Post by kris on Mar 2, 2023 17:05:15 GMT
You know very well what it means. No, . . I don't. You need to explain, . . in a post, . . so I can get a screenshot of it. Look you know how well telling me what to do went for you before. So why do you think it’s going to be any different this time?
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Mar 3, 2023 12:00:17 GMT
Not quite true. Crt don’t bother if you don’t show a number or name on the boat and they can’t link it to any individual. It’s too much work for them. There’s quite a few boats like that around here. In fact I’m not sure why I bother paying a licence anymore, I’m just to honest I suppose. Tony got under garners skin too much and then all the nonsense with selby Micheal was the final straw. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was the last boat garner stole before he retired. - and :- You know very well what it means. - and :- If you don’t know that you fucked up over Shelby micheal by now, then nothing I Write is going to change that. I really don't understand what you are trying to convey with your disjointed babble. The vague unqualified references to my commercial vessel Selby Michael require considerably more explanation, . . and in the reference to - "the last boat garner stole before he retired" - you appear to be agreeing and admitting that you know that C&RT's former Customer/Licence Support Supervisor, S.Garner, pursued personal vendettas against specific individuals, and was responsible for or at least involved with the theft of more than one of the large number of boats that were fraudulently seized and unlawfully disposed of by his former employers, the Canal & River Trust. Having published the above mentioned statements on the internet, you are now obliged to either elaborate on and substantiate them, . . or to admit that what you said was purely malicious invention on your part.
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Post by kris on Mar 3, 2023 13:17:42 GMT
I’m not obliged to do anything Tony.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Mar 3, 2023 14:04:08 GMT
You vill obey zee orderz.
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Mar 3, 2023 14:54:30 GMT
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Tony got under garners skin too much and then all the nonsense with selby Micheal was the final straw. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was the last boat garner stole before he retired. - and :- You know very well what it means. - and :- If you don’t know that you fucked up over Shelby micheal by now, then nothing I Write is going to change that. The vague unqualified references to my commercial vessel Selby Michael require considerably more explanation. In the reference to - "the last boat garner stole before he retired" - you appear to be agreeing and admitting that you know that C&RT's former Customer/Licence Support Supervisor, S.Garner, pursued personal vendettas against specific individuals. This is completely at odds with what you have stated, on the internet, on numerous earlier occasions. Your statements also imply that you have knowledge and proof that S.Garner was responsible for, or at least complicit in, the theft of more than one of the large number of boats that were fraudulently seized and unlawfully disposed of by his former employers, the Canal & River Trust. Having made the above mentioned statements on the internet, you have placed yourself in a position where you have no other viable option than to either elaborate on and substantiate them, . . or to admit that what you wrote and published on a publicly accessible internet forum was purely malicious invention on your part.
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Post by kris on Mar 3, 2023 14:56:48 GMT
Go whistle Tony.
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Mar 3, 2023 15:05:40 GMT
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Post by kris on Mar 3, 2023 15:11:04 GMT
Yes yes, just to let you know. I do not read what you post Tony. If you can’t except that you fucked up over Selby Michael then your madder than I think you are and i think your bat shit crazy.
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Post by Aloysius on Mar 3, 2023 15:11:32 GMT
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Tony got under garners skin too much and then all the nonsense with selby Micheal was the final straw. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was the last boat garner stole before he retired. - and :- You know very well what it means. - and :- If you don’t know that you fucked up over Shelby micheal by now, then nothing I Write is going to change that. you have no other viable option There are definitely other viable options; one is to ignore you until you fuck off but that doesn't appear to be very popular so I guess we'll stick with ridicule and insult for the foreseeable. You have an option as well - you can go and post your bullshit on John's forum now that he has flexed his dictatorial muscles and, contrary to the majority of participant's preferences, allowed you to join. See how long that lasts.
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