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Post by Aloysius on Mar 25, 2023 9:05:29 GMT
High calorie with extra sugar. You got it.
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Mar 25, 2023 10:02:03 GMT
All of C&RT's functions and duties, everything it does in fact, is governed by an extensive collection of inland waterways specific legislation collectively known or referred to as the various British Waterways Acts, . . all separately defined by means of including the year in which each Act went on to the statute book. Although C&RT claim that Section 8 of the British Waterways Act 1983 entitles it to remove certain specified craft, . . " from the inland waterways", . . the truth is that S.8 of the 1983 Act authorizes only the " removal" of certain specified craft from the location where they are "sunk, stranded or abandoned" or "left or moored without lawful authority". There is nothing at all, anywhere, in any of its governing legislation that gives the C&RT or its appointed contractors any lawful 'right' to seize, remove from, or transport away any pleasure craft from any of the inland waterways or reservoirs under C&RT control. C&RT lies to its customers (boatowners) about its S.8 powers of 'boat removal' in its webpages, . . and C&RT's dishonest lawyers knowingly mislead and lie to the Courts for the purpose of obtaining misworded Court Orders for Declaratory and Injunctive Relief, . . which are then passed on to a contractor who fraudulently enforces the misworded Court Order using bogus Bailiffs who lie to the boatowner and the Police to fool them into believing that the (misworded) Court Order entitles the Trust to forcibly seize and transport away the named boat. More details and information on how this scam is operated can be found in this TB post :- < thunderboat.boards.net/post/363286/thread >
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Post by on Mar 25, 2023 10:07:01 GMT
This is your interpretation.
You are a disgruntled former commercial boat skipper somewhere in the East Midlands.
Your interpretation of the law is, I'm afraid, irrelevant.
What IS relevant is how a judge interprets the law and your suggestion that they do not know how to do their job is offensive.
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Post by Aloysius on Mar 25, 2023 10:28:02 GMT
A bit like the 'object' discussion, just exactly what 'removal' means is, I suppose. open to debate; here's a def:
the action of taking away or abolishing something unwanted. "the removal of the brain tumour"
I assume that one would expect a brain tumour to be entirely separated from the brain; having it moved to a less critical area would be an improvement but may produce some surprise. Similarly, if a boat is to be 'removed' via s.8 one would tend to expect that means 'made absent' from the waterway...I'm as much of a lawyer as you, dear Tony, are, but if there was a limitation of that sort that the executors of statute were bound by, isn't it at least possible that limitation would be explicitly stated, and without any such explicit limitation, then 'remove' would be removed to wherever is considered most appropriate?
It's mainly you and some other (not many) boaters who assert (again) CRT can't take the boat away; after all, they could somewhat less legally extract the boat from the water and then just leave it at the first most convenient spot...but I think that's known as fly-tipping.
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Mar 25, 2023 10:37:08 GMT
It's good to see that recently returned former self-appointed forum moderator and spokesman for almost the entire membership, dogless, is confining himself to voting 'likes' to almost every vacuous post made by the forum's resident trolls. Let's hope he continues in the same manner, . . there's more than enough mindless crap posted on Thunderboat already, . . without that vapouring arsehole joining in with it again.
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Post by Aloysius on Mar 25, 2023 10:40:34 GMT
The mindless crap would decrease by more than 90% were you to fuck off.
Is that really Dogless or is it sockpuppet Steve? Please send a PM on TuB ❤
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Mar 25, 2023 14:01:50 GMT
All of C&RT's functions and duties, everything it does in fact, is governed by an extensive collection of inland waterways specific legislation collectively known or referred to as the various British Waterways Acts, . . all separately defined by means of the year in which each Act went on to the statute book, and came into effect.
Although C&RT claim that Section 8 of the British Waterways Act 1983 entitles it to remove certain specified craft, . . " from the inland waterways", . . the truth is that S.8 of the 1983 Act authorizes only the "removal" of certain specified craft from the location where they are "sunk, stranded or abandoned" or "left or moored without lawful authority".
There is nothing at all, anywhere, in any of its governing legislation that gives the C&RT or its appointed contractors any lawful 'right' to seize, remove from, or transport away any pleasure craft from any of the inland waterways or reservoirs under C&RT control.C&RT lies to its customers (boatowners) about its Section 8 powers of 'boat removal' in its webpages, . . and C&RT's dishonest lawyers knowingly mislead and lie to the Courts for the purpose of obtaining misworded Court Orders for Declaratory and Injunctive Relief, . . which are then passed on to a contractor who fraudulently enforces the misworded Court Order using bogus Bailiffs who lie to the boatowner and the Police to fool them into believing that the (misworded) Court Order entitles the Trust to forcibly seize and transport away the named boat.These are serious criminal offences that are facilitated by means of C&RT's lawyers first intentionally deceiving the Courts for the purpose of obtaining the misworded Court Orders that in turn are used by C&RT contractors impersonating Officers of the Court (Bailiffs) to lie to and deceive the Police officers that C&RT ask to attend whenever its contractors are carrying out a fraudulent and wholly illegal seizure and removal of a Section 8'd boat.More details and information on how this carefully planned scam is operated can be found in this TB post :- < thunderboat.boards.net/post/363286/thread >
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Post by kris on Mar 25, 2023 14:08:10 GMT
Your a long winded boring old fart Tony.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Mar 25, 2023 14:13:15 GMT
Should have got a licence and BSS then, you freeloading parasite.
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Post by naughtyfox on Mar 25, 2023 15:01:52 GMT
Viewer discretion required as there are some incredibly tedious people who might cause psychological traumas. It's a damn shame abou t the Higgledy Piggeldy girl and her child; the pedal power thing was great, but seemingly inadequate to a 30 mile cruising range. That hypocritical old hag claims she pedalled because she didn't want to use her boat's diesel engine and 'Save the Planet' - and then she sold her old tub and bought a van... with a diesel engine in it! It's all hippy bullshit.
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Post by naughtyfox on Mar 25, 2023 15:08:39 GMT
To clear up any misunderstandings there might be over my describing the treatment of George Ward at the hands of C&RT and its corrupt lawyers as 'unfair', . . it is quite simply that this man IS being treated unfairly Have you seen the state of his teeth? Even monkeys wash and pick lice off each other.
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Post by naughtyfox on Mar 25, 2023 15:09:57 GMT
George is a bit of a minor player in the doc, and sadly seems to have mentally declined somewhat since filming "When you are over 50, you're living on borrowed time."
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Post by naughtyfox on Mar 25, 2023 15:15:05 GMT
So the woman thinks she may have to live in a van. If she does and parks in a laybay on the A34, how long does she think that will be tolerated. When the Police turn up to remove her, she will ask if they want to buy some Lucky Heather - or be dragged behind her boyfriend's car for a mile. "The full horrific encounter between three teenage travellers and a policeman who was dragged to his death behind their speeding car has emerged as the trio were told they would be sentenced for manslaughter. PC Andrew Harper died after the car being driven by Henry Long, 19, with passengers Albert Bowers, and Jessie Cole, both 18, sped at 60mph along a road for more than a mile with PC Andrew Harper trapped by the leg on a tow rope. The injuries to PC Harper’s face and body were so serious that colleagues who found him alive when the car was finally stopped later received counselling. PC Harper died a short time after despite the efforts of paramedics and colleagues. On Friday the smirking teenagers, members of a travelling community, were cleared of murder. They will be sentenced next week for manslaughter. PC Harper's widow Lissie said she was ‘immensely disappointed’ by the verdict and decision to clear the boys of murder." www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/smirking-teenage-travellers-behind-horrific-4362612
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Post by naughtyfox on Mar 25, 2023 15:17:14 GMT
The C&RT specimen is called Matthew Symonds, . . an experimental GM life-form, loosely modelled on a human being, and one of many similar management and legal staff specially chosen for recruitment from the bottom of the same pond by C&RT Ltd CEO Parry and Company Secretary Deards. The saddest thing about that video is the way it illustrates the extent to which it is accepted that C&RT have the lawful authority and powers to evict boat owners from their privately owned pleasure craft, then to seize the vessel, remove it from whatever C&RT controlled waterway it happens to be on, and then finally to transport it away for disposal by means of either selling it on, illegally, to a new unsuspecting owner, or breaking it up, . . a regrettable state of affairs for which the responsibility rests wholly with the Community Law Partnership - the relatively useless and rather thick lawyers who advise and act for the NBTA and its members. As for your stupid remark about "a monopoly of the 'extra-judicial authority' argument", . . I don't know if it cropped up anywhere in that video, but it's certainly NOT a phrase or argument that I've ever used. You fucking prick. No wonder your wife left you.
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Post by naughtyfox on Mar 25, 2023 15:20:40 GMT
I believe the problems pre-date that incident. "George Ward, 52, who stays between Devizes and the Dundas Aqueduct, has been involved in a legal dispute with the Canal and River Trust, which took over from British Waterways, since 2010 after he was unable to get a boat safety certificate in time to re-licence the vehicle he lives in". Some boaters are unable to get fully comprehensive insurance for their old boats, because they dare not get a hull survey, as requested by the insurance company. Know anyone like this?
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