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Post by The Cat Man on May 12, 2023 18:45:27 GMT
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Post by Tony Dunkley on May 12, 2023 18:47:49 GMT
Over on CWDF a member posting under the name Jess.. said :
There are probably a lot more legal options for kicking a boat (with or without occupant) out of a mooring space than the blunt tool of section 8 that CRT have to use to remove a boat from the canal totally ________________________________________________________________________________
Why does this myth persist ? Section 8 of the 1983 British Waterways Act does NOT confer any statutory to remove a boat FROM any canal or inland waterway, . . the statutory power to do that is confined to what the Act defines as 'objects' -- something OTHER than a vessel.
Why is it that people accept the grossly distorted, and intentionally misrepresented C&RT(Ltd) version of what C&RT(Ltd) would prefer S.8 to state, . . rather than reading, and noting, what it DOES actually say for themselves ?
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Post by on May 12, 2023 18:48:32 GMT
There is a Duck.
There is also a bucket.
Duck was initially in bucket.
Duck was then REMOVED from bucket.
Duck is now no longer in the bucket. It is a duckless bucket.
The S8 specifically uses the word 'remove'.
Clue: The duck is the boat.
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Post by naughtyfox on May 12, 2023 18:59:38 GMT
I eat slugs and like to drown kittens. Rog Every man needs a hobby, I suppose.
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Post by metanoia on May 12, 2023 19:00:39 GMT
I hope George Ward has a comfortable bed tonight. He is old and frail and homeless. I wish him well. However, I'm sure he has. He seems a very perspicacious and fortunate man to have strangers give him over £7000 after he lived for free on the towpath for over twelve years but still never managed to licence a boat or even move it to the nearest elsan point..... Why does this myth exist, TonyDunkley?
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Post by kris on May 12, 2023 19:55:06 GMT
Oh look it’s Dunkley’s donkey.
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Post by Mr Stabby on May 12, 2023 20:09:02 GMT
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Post by Tony Dunkley on May 12, 2023 20:40:00 GMT
I hope George Ward has a comfortable bed tonight. He is old and frail and homeless. I wish him well. However, I'm sure he has. He seems a very perspicacious and fortunate man to have strangers give him over £7000 after he lived for free on the towpath for over twelve years but still never managed to licence a boat or even move it to the nearest elsan point..... Why does this myth exist, TonyDunkley ? Because too many people are too mentally lazy, or just too thick, to take the trouble to read and understand the 1983 British Waterways Act for themselves, . . and prefer to accept and believe the garbage the C&RT(Ltd) publishes on its webpages instead.
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Post by Mr Stabby on May 12, 2023 20:50:45 GMT
It's quite simple Tony.
If you keep a boat on the waterways then you have to contribute towards the cost of the upkeep of those waterways.
If you refuse to, then your boat gets removed from those waterways.
Everyone who pays their fair share towards the cost of maintaining the waterways agrees with this concept.
There will only ever be very limited support for freeloading parasites like you and George Ward.
THE END.
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Post by Tony Dunkley on May 13, 2023 6:23:39 GMT
No one was removed forcibly or otherwise ... one of them may have carried a bus pass but I guess he wasn't trying to catch a number 23 ! Rog George Ward was forcibly prevented from getting back onto his boat by Brian Clarke/CBS's bogus Bailiffs "contracted security operatives", . . while the Police looked on, . . and while some of the contents and his personal belongings were thrown out of the boat on to the towpath. Where, and from what, or from whom, do you suppose the lawful authority/enforcement power for anyone to do that came from ? Any dispute or so-called legal action between the C&RT(Ltd) and a member of the public, is entirely a CIVIL matter. The Police have no jurisdiction or powers to intervene or assist in CIVIL matters. How do you explain Police participation in what is unquestionably a CIVIL matter ?
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Post by Murgatroyd on May 13, 2023 6:44:00 GMT
No one was removed forcibly or otherwise ... one of them may have carried a bus pass but I guess he wasn't trying to catch a number 23 ! Rog while the Police looked on So you agree that the police were merely present and took no part in the action?
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Post by Tony Dunkley on May 13, 2023 7:23:07 GMT
while the Police looked on So you agree that the police were merely present and took no part in the action? Apart from providing George Ward with a patronizing and wholly incorrect explanation of what was happening, and warning him not create or cause a breach of the peace, . . the Police took no active part whatsoever at the location where the boat was moored. The Police were, however, the active participants in blocking public access along the towpath from either direction to where Georges boat was moored immediately prior to the Brian Clarke/CBS bogus Bailiffs 'contracted security operatives' arriving at the boat carrying crowbars and sledgehammers. The Police were also the active participants in blocking public access into the nearby marina where the lorry was waiting to load and take the boat away.
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Post by on May 13, 2023 7:30:45 GMT
And?
We know all this already. You really don't need to keep repeating it ad nauseam.
If you want to do something about it then do something. Constantly bleating about it on a small irrelevant internet forum isn't going to do anything.
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Post by Murgatroyd on May 13, 2023 7:32:54 GMT
So, CRT acted on its authority to remove an unlawfully moored vessel as described in s.8 and the police kept the peace...well ok then.
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Post by on May 13, 2023 7:35:52 GMT
If repetition is the order of the day then it is worth mentioning that the boat is gone. This is in fact all that is relevant. Whether the CRT or the police acted outside of their powers is not actually a relevant subject unless someone is thinking of actually doing something.
Have you considered going through the official complaints procedure with the police? Maybe do the same with the CRT amd CBS.
I mean about the handling of your own boat's removal.
George Wards situation has fuck all to do with you. It is between him and the CRT.
Why do you think anything you post about has any value ? It doesn't.
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