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Post by kris on Mar 17, 2024 9:36:13 GMT
I have got a life outside of thunderboat rog. There seems no point replying as we werenโt getting anywhere. You seem t be taking your situation and extrapolating it to every other boater. Where as every person and situation is different.
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Post by dogless on Mar 17, 2024 9:40:50 GMT
So you're quick to be dismissive and sarcastic ("what do you want, a medal") but now refuse to explain your assertion that ANY boater can now come under C&RT enforcement without knowing or being aware.
In the absence of an explanation from you I say again ... anyone coming under enforcement will KNOW what the issue is.
And I only explained my position because YOU asked me to.
Rog
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Post by kris on Mar 17, 2024 9:56:55 GMT
So why do you object to crt giving warning letters to boaters before starting enforcement against them? Which is what the original issue was we where talking about? Ps The internet is not something that you win.
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Post by Tony Dunkley on Mar 17, 2024 10:02:47 GMT
Remove the boat solves the problem, once and for all doesn't it ? Rog Yes it does, . . but the way C&RT and Commercial Boat Services go about doing it is wholly unlawful. If C&RT want the statutes amending, they're obliged to get Parliament to do that, . . C&RT simply CANNOT rewrite the Law, however and whenever it suits its crooked management, and its bent lawyers.
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Post by โ on Mar 17, 2024 10:03:47 GMT
They don't want to do it like that !
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Post by โ on Mar 17, 2024 10:04:56 GMT
So you're quick to be dismissive and sarcastic ("what do you want, a medal") but now refuse to explain your assertion that ANY boater can now come under C&RT enforcement without knowing or being aware. In the absence of an explanation from you I say again ... anyone coming under enforcement will KNOW what the issue is. And I only explained my position because YOU asked me to. Rog What about if someone else clones your index number.
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Post by kris on Mar 17, 2024 10:05:27 GMT
Remove the boat solves the problem, once and for all doesn't it ? Rog Yes it does, . . but the way C&RT and Commercial Boat services go about it is wholly unlawful. If C&RT want the statutes amending, they're obliged to get Parliament to do that, . . C&RT simply CANNOT rewrite the Law, however and whenever it suits its crooked management, and its bent lawyers.ย ย ย ย ย ย ย So whenโs your day in court? We are all waiting for you to spring this trap and show crt whoโs boss. I mean thereโs no one can compete with your intellect.
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Post by Aloysius on Mar 17, 2024 10:08:17 GMT
. . . . . . . . CRT need a 'straight to prosecution' framework to hand over. Simple as that, really. To create such a framework, as you call it, . . C&RT would first have to begin 'prosecuting' owners of unlicensed craft. To date, C&RT have NEVER brought one single prosecution against the owner, hirer, occupier, or user of an unlicensed vessel under the General Canal Byelaws 1976, or under the Statutory powers it has to take action with regard to unlicensed craft under Section 5 of the BW Act 1983, or Sections 5 & 7 of the BW Act 1971. Have you noticed that things have a funny way of not turning out like you thought they would?
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Post by Mr Stabby on Mar 17, 2024 10:36:09 GMT
Remove the boat solves the problem, once and for all doesn't it ? Rog Yes it does, . . but the way C&RT and Commercial Boat Services go about doing it is wholly unlawful. If C&RT want the statutes amending, they're obliged to get Parliament to do that, . . C&RT simply CANNOT rewrite the Law, however and whenever it suits its crooked management, and its bent lawyers. There's never going to be so much as a scrape of sympathy for you from anyone prepared to pay their fair share towards the cost of running the waterway network. You are a freeloading parasite and we were universally overjoyed to see the back of your slum boat as it trundled off on its journey to Chester.
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Post by Aloysius on Mar 17, 2024 11:15:44 GMT
. . . . . . . . CRT need a 'straight to prosecution' framework to hand over. Simple as that, really. To create such a framework, as you call it, . . C&RT would first have to begin 'prosecuting' owners of unlicensed craft. To date, C&RT have NEVER brought one single prosecution against the owner, hirer, occupier, or user of an unlicensed vessel under the General Canal Byelaws 1976, or under the Statutory powers it has to take action with regard to unlicensed craft under Section 5 of the BW Act 1983, or Sections 5 & 7 of the BW Act 1971. Have you noticed how things don't turn out the way you thought they would? BTW, I wasn't discussing unlicenced boats when you imagined up your nonsensical response. Read it back. Deluded, senile old twat.
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Post by dogless on Mar 17, 2024 13:30:21 GMT
You're right kris ... no one wins the Internet. But you're not a victim... C&RT are not the enemy ... and if you choose to test the system and play games, you will lose. I can evidence with examples if you wish ๐ Rog
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Post by kris on Mar 17, 2024 13:41:05 GMT
You're right kris ... no one wins the Internet. But you're not a victim... C&RT are not the enemy ... and if you choose to test the system and play games, you will lose. I can evidence with examples if you wish ๐ Rog What we started talking about was crt stopping to send out letters to non compliant boaters. I still donโt see why your so adamant that itโs a good idea. Itโs seems like a false economy. If they sent out a thousand letters letโs say at a cost of ยฃ1500 they are all the same letter just regurgitated. So itโs not as if someone has to sit and write everyone. If those letters stop one person from going into enforcement, then they have saved money. So why is it a bad idea? As Iโve pointed out the increasing number of boats you see around the system with no name, no number and no licence visible. Donโt come under enforcement as itโs too difficult for crt to trace the owners. The worst crt do to most of these, is to cable tie a notice to them occasionally. That has the desired effect of getting local boaters to think something is happening.
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Post by โ on Mar 17, 2024 14:13:18 GMT
I did find it a little amusing when someone put a notice on their Boat "Anyone attaching a notice to this vessel hereby agrees to pay the vessel owner the sum of one hundred pounds"
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Post by kris on Mar 17, 2024 14:15:44 GMT
I did find it a little amusing when someone put a notice on their Boat "Anyone attaching a notice to this vessel hereby agrees to pay the vessel owner the sum of one hundred pounds" Some people seem to collect them like badges of honour. The boat two boats away at the moment has two tied on.
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Post by โ on Mar 17, 2024 14:18:12 GMT
I still have the cable ties.
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