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Post by kris on Apr 17, 2024 4:12:50 GMT
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Post by on Apr 17, 2024 7:19:25 GMT
Maybe forum admins should pay people to be objects of hate in order that larger numbers participate. Scapegoating is a wonderful thing.
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Post by kris on Apr 17, 2024 8:49:46 GMT
It seems Tony is doing an admirable job at the moment. Without the need for payment.
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Post by Aloysius on Apr 17, 2024 14:53:46 GMT
It's a hateful idea.
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Post by kris on Apr 17, 2024 15:01:58 GMT
It does seem to be what’s happening though. I’m going to have to read 1984 again. We read it at school, but that’s along time ago.
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Post by on Apr 17, 2024 15:26:08 GMT
I don't think anyone particularly hates TD. Most people probably think he is a little bit ridiculous.
A friend of mine told me something very interesting recently which pertains to this subject.
Old people.
If an old man has no children and therefore no grand children then as he ages his worth is concentrated in his accumulated knowledge. After a certain stage a gentleman can not fuck and reproduce, can not do constructive work and in a lot of cases can not do much at all.
But... They do have accumulated knowledge. This is why in a lot of cases this knowledge is held dear and not disseminated.
If one encounters someone like this and one expresses views which indicate that one is in fact more knowledgeable than the older gentleman then you are effectively saying 'I declare that you, Sir, are worthless'.
This explains why sometimes there are people with a lot of accumulated knowledge who do not want to release it.
Doing so would make worthlessness much closer.
So in a
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Post by kris on Apr 17, 2024 15:38:47 GMT
Sorry I shouldn’t have mentioned Tony. I think what is described is pretty much social media to a T. The interesting thing from my perspective is, was George Orwell being uncannily prophetic? Or did the architects of modern society read his book and go “this guys got great ideas, let’s make them happen?” So George didn’t just prophise about this situation. He was one of its architects and helped create it? Anyway as I say interesting.
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Post by Aloysius on Apr 17, 2024 15:45:23 GMT
It does seem to be what’s happening though. I’m going to have to read 1984 again. We read it at school, but that’s along time ago. I find it most helpful to view any novel as an historical artefact... In the case of '1984', the cold war was ramping up; John McCarthy was getting started, and the idealist vision of the Russian revolution that inspired the likes of the Cambridge spies was crumbling. Orwell was dying of cancer when he was writing '1984', and he was aware of the impending end. I expect this did little to lighten the mood. Try 'Keep the Aspidistra Flying' for a sense of 1950s English society as perceived by the author. It's a quite amusing novel. |
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Post by kris on Apr 17, 2024 15:50:58 GMT
It does seem to be what’s happening though. I’m going to have to read 1984 again. We read it at school, but that’s along time ago. I find it most helpful to view any novel as an historical artefact... In the case of '1984', the cold war was ramping up; John McCarthy was getting started, and the idealist vision of the Russian revolution that inspired the likes of the Cambridge spies was crumbling. Orwell was dying of cancer when he was writing '1984', and he was aware of the impending end. I expect this did little to lighten the mood. Try 'Keep the Aspidistra Flying' for a sense of 1950s English society as perceived by the author. It's a quite amusing novel. Yes I’ve read “Keep the aspidistra flying.” And down and out in London and Paris. I think a lot of 1984 just passed me by at school, so fancy giving it another go. Next winter though now probably. |
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Post by Aloysius on Apr 17, 2024 16:07:48 GMT
I find it most helpful to view any novel as an historical artefact... In the case of '1984', the cold war was ramping up; John McCarthy was getting started, and the idealist vision of the Russian revolution that inspired the likes of the Cambridge spies was crumbling. Orwell was dying of cancer when he was writing '1984', and he was aware of the impending end. I expect this did little to lighten the mood. Try 'Keep the Aspidistra Flying' for a sense of 1950s English society as perceived by the author. It's a quite amusing novel. Yes I’ve read “Keep the aspidistra flying.” And down and out in London and Paris. I think a lot of 1984 just passed me by at school, so fancy giving it another go. Next winter though now probably. Have some antidepressants handy. |
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Post by Aloysius on Apr 17, 2024 17:00:13 GMT
I don't think anyone particularly hates TD. Most people probably think he is a little bit ridiculous. A friend of mine told me something very interesting recently which pertains to this subject. Old people. If an old man has no children and therefore no grand children then as he ages his worth is concentrated in his accumulated knowledge. After a certain stage a gentleman can not fuck and reproduce, can not do constructive work and in a lot of cases can not do much at all. But... They do have accumulated knowledge. This is why in a lot of cases this knowledge is held dear and not disseminated. If one encounters someone like this and one expresses views which indicate that one is in fact more knowledgeable than the older gentleman then you are effectively saying 'I declare that you, Sir, are worthless'. This explains why sometimes there are people with a lot of accumulated knowledge who do not want to release it. Doing so would make worthlessness much closer. So in a So what you're saying is that we all think Tony talks bollocks and this upsets him... |
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Post by kris on Apr 17, 2024 17:23:06 GMT
I don't think anyone particularly hates TD. Most people probably think he is a little bit ridiculous. A friend of mine told me something very interesting recently which pertains to this subject. Old people. If an old man has no children and therefore no grand children then as he ages his worth is concentrated in his accumulated knowledge. After a certain stage a gentleman can not fuck and reproduce, can not do constructive work and in a lot of cases can not do much at all. But... They do have accumulated knowledge. This is why in a lot of cases this knowledge is held dear and not disseminated. If one encounters someone like this and one expresses views which indicate that one is in fact more knowledgeable than the older gentleman then you are effectively saying 'I declare that you, Sir, are worthless'. This explains why sometimes there are people with a lot of accumulated knowledge who do not want to release it. Doing so would make worthlessness much closer. So in a So what you're saying is that we all think Tony talks bollocks and this upsets him... Yes but all those extra words are what a quality education get you. |
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Post by dogless on Apr 17, 2024 17:29:58 GMT
Yes I’ve read “Keep the aspidistra flying.” And down and out in London and Paris. I think a lot of 1984 just passed me by at school, so fancy giving it another go. Next winter though now probably. Have some antidepressants handy. I'd save some for reading Sylvia Plath's The Bell Jar ... not many laughs in 1984 I'll grant , but 😳 Rog |
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Post by kris on Apr 17, 2024 17:30:53 GMT
Yes I’ve read “Keep the aspidistra flying.” And down and out in London and Paris. I think a lot of 1984 just passed me by at school, so fancy giving it another go. Next winter though now probably. Have some antidepressants handy. It can’t be anymore depressing than watching the news at the moment. The only light relief is Donald trump is in court. |
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Post by Aloysius on Apr 17, 2024 17:52:16 GMT
Have some antidepressants handy. It can’t be anymore depressing than watching the news at the moment. The only light relief is Donald trump is in court. Are you kidding? The news hasn't been so exciting for ages. The Trump trial: so fucking what. It won't stop him from running for prez, or being prez if he loses. Most likely it'll be chucked out on a technicality or if not that then the case will fail because his lawyers will argue he can't get a fair trial. Also it could be still running after the election in which case, assuming Trump wins, and I'm betting he will, then he'll just pardon himself. The whole thing is a farce. |
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