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Post by Mr Stabby on Jul 31, 2024 19:08:37 GMT
As I said earlier in the thread, with every wave of immigration we have ever had, it is the second generation which is always the problem. The first generation come to seek sanctuary or to work, and are well-behaved, the third generation have virtually fully assimilated. The second generation have the attitude. However this is a massive generalisation and you (or I) don’t have the slightest idea if it is apposite. It is consistent with my observations. Is it consistent with yours?
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Post by Telemachus on Jul 31, 2024 19:13:51 GMT
However this is a massive generalisation and you (or I) don’t have the slightest idea if it is apposite. It is consistent with my observations. Is it consistent with yours? Anyone with the slightest intelligence and who has been to a proper school, knows that it is inappropriate to apply a generalisation to a specific case.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jul 31, 2024 19:15:23 GMT
It is consistent with my observations. Is it consistent with yours? Anyone with the slightest intelligence and who has been to a proper school, knows that it is inappropriate to apply a generalisation to a specific case. So is that "yes" or "no"?
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Post by deleted on Jul 31, 2024 19:18:54 GMT
Strap in, people. At least another seven pages to follow.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jul 31, 2024 19:22:32 GMT
Strap in, people. At least another seven pages to follow. Not really. I've given Telemachus a second chance to answer a very simple question, if he's too thick to understand the question I won't waste my time asking him a third time.
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Post by Telemachus on Jul 31, 2024 19:43:24 GMT
Anyone with the slightest intelligence and who has been to a proper school, knows that it is inappropriate to apply a generalisation to a specific case. So is that "yes" or "no"? During Jeff’s employment tribunal, their QC (against our solicitor) knew perfectly well that the defence had no defence, but in order to justify his enormous (at taxpayers expense) fee, had to ask me some stiff and loaded questions during cross examination. After I had outsmarted him a couple of times, he asked a somewhat ridiculous and loaded question followed by “ just answer Yes or No.” I replied “Your question does not allow for a Yes or No answer.” The judge chuckled.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Jul 31, 2024 19:45:32 GMT
It is consistent with my observations. Is it consistent with yours? Anyone with the slightest intelligence and who has been to a proper school, knows that it is inappropriate to apply a generalisation to a specific case. If there are a number of cases, each with similar characteristics, would the educated consider that there was a trend, or put it down to random chaos?
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Post by kris on Jul 31, 2024 19:46:11 GMT
Is that my new moniker? Cheers for that,😂 corrected. The EDL are similar to the EDF, without the Armoury, thankfully. I think there’s a few others on here that are potential members.
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Post by Telemachus on Jul 31, 2024 19:56:32 GMT
Anyone with the slightest intelligence and who has been to a proper school, knows that it is inappropriate to apply a generalisation to a specific case. If there are a number of cases, each with similar characteristics, would the educated consider that there was a trend, or put it down to random chaos? Obviously there is a probabilistic case, but the moment justice (or anything similar) applies probability to a judgement of a specific person, that is a big fail.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Jul 31, 2024 20:18:40 GMT
If there are a number of cases, each with similar characteristics, would the educated consider that there was a trend, or put it down to random chaos? Obviously there is a probabilistic case, but the moment justice (or anything similar) applies probability to a judgement of a specific person, that is a big fail. Indeed. However, if the evidence pointed towards a particular problem existing within a particular group, or groups, the educated wouldn't discount this. Unless they were driven to ignore this by an illogical theory or custom.
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Post by metanoia on Jul 31, 2024 20:44:05 GMT
It is consistent with my observations. Is it consistent with yours? Anyone with the slightest intelligence and who has been to a proper school, knows that it is inappropriate to apply a generalisation to a specific case. So what could possibly make you think a kid brought up in Banks by Rwandan parents would have a Welsh accent?
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Post by Telemachus on Jul 31, 2024 21:06:10 GMT
Obviously there is a probabilistic case, but the moment justice (or anything similar) applies probability to a judgement of a specific person, that is a big fail. Indeed. However, if the evidence pointed towards a particular problem existing within a particular group, or groups, the educated wouldn't discount this. Unless they were driven to ignore this by an illogical theory or custom. The morons wouldn’t discount it, but the educated would know that to extrapolate from the general to the specific is a path that only people with an agenda (in this case a racist agenda, and yes I use that term carefully) would follow.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jul 31, 2024 21:08:57 GMT
Indeed. However, if the evidence pointed towards a particular problem existing within a particular group, or groups, the educated wouldn't discount this. Unless they were driven to ignore this by an illogical theory or custom. The morons wouldn’t discount it, but the educated would know that to extrapolate from the general to the specific is a path that only people with an agenda (in this case a racist agenda, and yes I use that term carefully) would follow. Since when has there been any crossover between education and intelligence?
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Post by Telemachus on Jul 31, 2024 21:09:35 GMT
Anyone with the slightest intelligence and who has been to a proper school, knows that it is inappropriate to apply a generalisation to a specific case. So what could make you think a kid brought up in Banks by Rwandan parents would have a Welsh accent? I’m not sure at what age he left wales for the grim north. But it really doesn’t matter and is only something a nit picker would be concerned about. My point seems fairly obvious and is that having been born and brought up in both Wales and the grim north, he will have absorbed a lot of culture from those places including his accent and way of speaking. Whether this was welsh or grim-north-ish is not significant.
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Post by Telemachus on Jul 31, 2024 21:10:42 GMT
The morons wouldn’t discount it, but the educated would know that to extrapolate from the general to the specific is a path that only people with an agenda (in this case a racist agenda, and yes I use that term carefully) would follow. Since when has there been any crossover between education and intelligence? Since you had to pass an entrance examination to be allowed into a proper school.
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