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Post by kris on Apr 1, 2024 11:36:30 GMT
If your really interested id suggest you email them directly. Secretariat@bargee-traveller.org.uk I think I might just do that. I’d suggest not starting your email with “your stupid,” if you’d like a reply. |
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Post by Andyberg on Apr 1, 2024 12:05:38 GMT
Not trying to be presumptuous but I imagine your children are in there 40’s now? It’s people who are now in their 20’s who are the first to really feel the brunt. Do you ever actually read what has been posted?🤷🏻♂️ Both our children, and most of their friends have earned enough money to have saved a mortgage deposit and brought houses. The majority of these youngsters, all in their 20s have done this without being gifted money. |
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Post by thebfg on Apr 1, 2024 12:08:01 GMT
I think I might just do that. I’d suggest not starting your email with “your stupid,” if you’d like a reply. Obviously, although I may imply it. |
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Post by kris on Apr 1, 2024 12:09:03 GMT
Not trying to be presumptuous but I imagine your children are in there 40’s now? It’s people who are now in their 20’s who are the first to really feel the brunt. Do you ever actually read what has been posted?🤷🏻♂️ Both our children, and most of their friends have earned enough money to have saved a mortgage deposit and brought houses. The majority of these youngsters, all in their 20s have done this without being gifted money. About as much as everybody else on here. |
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Post by kris on Apr 1, 2024 12:17:32 GMT
I’d suggest not starting your email with “your stupid,” if you’d like a reply. Obviously, although I may imply it. Don’t be surprised if you don’t get an answer then. They are all busy people who don’t get paid for work with NBTA but give their time freely to help the general boating community. So have probably got better things to do. |
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Post by dogless on Apr 1, 2024 12:30:46 GMT
Most youngsters have got no chance of earning it Rog. Unless your born with a silver spoon ( parents who can help you.) your born into a poverty trap in this country. No wonder as they have got older and realise their situation that they have got pissed off. You seem to be in denial about this, but this is the reality. Both our children, and most of their friends have earned enough money to have saved a mortgage deposit and brought houses. The majority of these youngsters, all in their 20s have done this without being gifted money. I am aware that lots of people are struggling financially but lots are doing just fine. My nephew and his partner (who's wedding we're off to next week)are working hard and making a life together (nephew 30, partner 23) Had to buy by the shared ownership route, but you do what you have to do. Every thing's gone into creating the home and now, finally , they're spending a little on a wedding. Being young and making your way in the world is tough ... it always was and I'm sure it always will be. Rog |
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Post by on Apr 1, 2024 12:32:52 GMT
My girls said they will be earning lots of money and looking after me !
I told them its not their job but anyway whatever.
At least they are both into Nirvana music so the world will be alright.
Not that I am but I know class.
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Post by brummieboy on Apr 1, 2024 13:40:43 GMT
I think that 20 somethings suffer today when they have been cossetted by their parents and have expectations that don't exist in the real world.
When they can pay over £75 per month for the latest phone, have to have a car that is no older than 3 years, so pay a lump up front and £300 per month lease for 3 years and have nothing left to shoe for it. They are unwilling to look at house purchase of anything less than 3 bed semi or better and it must have the latest equipment. Oh, and of course they need at least 1 exotic holiday and 3 or 4 weekend breaks a year and a weekly blow out at a posh restaurant.
those with vision make some sacrifice of those targets and knuckle down to eastablish their place in society.
They are conditioned by the banks to live off loans from a young age whereas their parents saved for things one at a time and did not have to pay interest.
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Post by fi on Apr 1, 2024 13:55:19 GMT
On the other hand...
If you are young and working for minimum wage, have to rent and pay all your bills, and can't rely on the bank of mum and dad, you are often one step away from going hungry/using a food bank. Mobiles are now cheaper than landlines. Try searching for a job without internet access.
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Post by kris on Apr 1, 2024 13:59:39 GMT
Lots of people seem to be in denial about the state of north he nation.
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Post by Telemachus on Apr 1, 2024 14:02:04 GMT
It’s certainly false to suggest that all young people are skint. Yes if you didn’t bother to pay attention at school and left with minimal qualifications, and an entitled attitude, then you will likely be stuck in a minimum wage job and thus be unlikely to be able to afford a mortgage. But let’s say 50 years ago, those same people existed but were quite happy not to have the expensive things that brummieboy talks about. They rented, lived in a council house or with their parents.
It is perhaps the case that they are victims of an overly left wing education system (such that they have never learnt how to deal with failure) and social pressures.
But then again there are plenty of high achieving youngsters who got a degree in a sensible subject and are in good jobs earning well above minimum wage and with great prospects. It was always thus.
Back to the 2 tier licensing system, your average CCer will use more resources that your average marina dweller, and the latter already pays a cut of mooring fees to CRT. So any rational analysis would show that it is perfectly reasonable for CCers to pay more - because they get more. It is harder to justify the fat boat surcharge though.
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Post by dogless on Apr 1, 2024 14:06:43 GMT
Both cases can be true ... there are those that sadly 'fall through the cracks' fiBut choices are made ... my nephew and partner gave up smoking, don't drink, no holidays, no car (public transport or shanks pony only) no tattoos, and put everything they earned into their home dream. Many are doing this ... not easy and I hope my nephew and partner get there eventually, and together. As I said, being young is and always has been tough and no doubt always will be. Rog |
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Post by Clinton Cool on Apr 1, 2024 14:08:52 GMT
I think that 20 somethings suffer today when they have been cossetted by their parents and have expectations that don't exist in the real world. When they can pay over £75 per month for the latest phone, have to have a car that is no older than 3 years, so pay a lump up front and £300 per month lease for 3 years and have nothing left to shoe for it. They are unwilling to look at house purchase of anything less than 3 bed semi or better and it must have the latest equipment. Oh, and of course they need at least 1 exotic holiday and 3 or 4 weekend breaks a year and a weekly blow out at a posh restaurant. those with vision make some sacrifice of those targets and knuckle down to eastablish their place in society. They are conditioned by the banks to live off loans from a young age whereas their parents saved for things one at a time and did not have to pay interest. Don't forget 'must have' labels on expensive clothes and the fear of some of being seen in the same outfit more than once. My generation of youngsters consumed very little compared to those of today. |
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Post by dogless on Apr 1, 2024 14:14:51 GMT
It's not a black and white issue, and times are tough now ... but times seem to be tough always for various reasons and causes.
Rog
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Post by ianali on Apr 1, 2024 14:43:46 GMT
So it’s all a lie then? Because your children and their friends are okay, it must not be correct? Not trying to be presumptuous but I imagine your children are in there 40’s now? Not really the generation most effected. It’s people who are now in their 20’s who are the first to really feel the brunt. Unless something is done subsequent generations are going to be worse off so your grandchildren and great grandchildren maybe? I did write that I realise that some are struggling financially. I was simply telling you the facts that my children who are in their 20s and most of theirs mates are doing just fine. They work hard now, they worked hard at school. I don’t really think I deserved such a grumpy response. Not something I expected from you. |
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