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Post by kris on Apr 1, 2024 14:44:53 GMT
Oh yes it’s all those feckless youths fault.
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Post by kris on Apr 1, 2024 14:47:04 GMT
So it’s all a lie then? Because your children and their friends are okay, it must not be correct? Not trying to be presumptuous but I imagine your children are in there 40’s now? Not really the generation most effected. It’s people who are now in their 20’s who are the first to really feel the brunt. Unless something is done subsequent generations are going to be worse off so your grandchildren and great grandchildren maybe? I did write that I realise that some are struggling financially. I was simply telling you the facts that my children who are in their 20s and most of theirs mates are doing just fine. They work hard now, they worked hard at school. I don’t really think I deserved such a grumpy response. Not something I expected from you. I’m sorry if I can across grumpy. But to be honest I’m shocked by some peoples attitudes on here.
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Post by Telemachus on Apr 1, 2024 15:41:54 GMT
I did write that I realise that some are struggling financially. I was simply telling you the facts that my children who are in their 20s and most of theirs mates are doing just fine. They work hard now, they worked hard at school. I don’t really think I deserved such a grumpy response. Not something I expected from you. I’m sorry if I can across grumpy. But to be honest I’m shocked by some peoples attitudes on here. And outraged too? Surely it is totally unacceptable that other people might have a slightly different view from you? I would recommend writing to your MP about it. Don’t forget to sign it “Outraged of Tunbridge Wells”. Anyway what is it that you are shocked about? The view that some young people have successful lifestyles with well paid jobs, and are saving for a mortgage? I’m not sure why that is shocking, it is simply the facts. Other people in minimum wage jobs or on benefits are struggling, obviously. So I don’t really see what there is to be shocked about,
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Post by kris on Apr 1, 2024 16:17:00 GMT
Go and pick an argument with someone else.
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Post by Jim on Apr 1, 2024 16:49:03 GMT
I'm of the opinion that some people expect summat for nowt. Want to change rules to suit their own needs.
When I lived in relative poverty as a single parent, or prior to that single, on the dole, enjoying myself playing in a band etc, I loved playing on water, in canoes, I would have loved a narrowboat or cruiser. I couldn't afford one. First boat was cheap as chips, restored and refitted myself, sold for a small profit, bought 2nd cruiser, again refitted it myself, just about washed it's face when I sold it and got the narrowboat, again a floating wreck, restored and refitted mostly with found timber, bargain eBay windows etc etc. I worked my way up with my skills. I was in a low paid charity job for years , enjoyable and rewarding but no pension. Same with properties to get a pension, hard work and good business sense (thanks to the management!). Even so we are cumulatively well below the average wage.
So I feel competent and entitled to call out those who want summat for nowt, handed them on a plate. We all need to make a more equal contribution to CRT, the cc surcharge evens up the playing field. Just heard about the increase in living vans in Bristol, up to 800! Great, carry on, but try not paying your dues or parking inappropriately (because it's near.the kids school), DVLA and local authority will rapidly move on you.
CRT is seen as an easy option, slow to act, relatively low costs (even after the surcharge). So people take the piss.
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Post by dyertribe on Apr 1, 2024 18:18:00 GMT
When I was young there were those of my peers doing well, those doing ok, others doing shit. There were those working hard, others with no ambition, those on benefits.. Looking at my daughter’s generation 40 years on it is much the same.
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Post by thebfg on Apr 1, 2024 21:39:28 GMT
Obviously, although I may imply it. Don’t be surprised if you don’t get an answer then. They are all busy people who don’t get paid for work with NBTA but give their time freely to help the general boating community. So have probably got better things to do. I suspect the reason I don't get one will be because they can't answer. But, we will see.
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Post by on Apr 1, 2024 21:42:28 GMT
To be fair they do some good works and make a point but the predictable outcome of their overall rather interesting attitude is that over time people who actually want to live on Boats rather than do bullshit politics about living on Boats are going to be more and more fucked.
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Post by on Apr 1, 2024 21:43:19 GMT
Its okay I do know what I am talking about
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Post by Telemachus on Apr 1, 2024 21:56:34 GMT
Go and pick an argument with someone else. I'll pick an argument with whoever I like. If you don't want to enter into an argument, don't make contentious posts expecting everyone to agree with you and then get all sulky when they don't. It's pathetic.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Apr 2, 2024 7:32:35 GMT
I'm of the opinion that some people expect summat for nowt. Want to change rules to suit their own needs. When I lived in relative poverty as a single parent, or prior to that single, on the dole, enjoying myself playing in a band etc, I loved playing on water, in canoes, I would have loved a narrowboat or cruiser. I couldn't afford one. First boat was cheap as chips, restored and refitted myself, sold for a small profit, bought 2nd cruiser, again refitted it myself, just about washed it's face when I sold it and got the narrowboat, again a floating wreck, restored and refitted mostly with found timber, bargain eBay windows etc etc. I worked my way up with my skills. I was in a low paid charity job for years , enjoyable and rewarding but no pension. Same with properties to get a pension, hard work and good business sense (thanks to the management!). Even so we are cumulatively well below the average wage. So I feel competent and entitled to call out those who want summat for nowt, handed them on a plate. We all need to make a more equal contribution to CRT, the cc surcharge evens up the playing field. Just heard about the increase in living vans in Bristol, up to 800! Great, carry on, but try not paying your dues or parking inappropriately (because it's near.the kids school), DVLA and local authority will rapidly move on you. CRT is seen as an easy option, slow to act, relatively low costs (even after the surcharge). So people take the piss. I hear the Conservative party are short of members these days. I'm sure they'd be delighted to hear from you, given that you've written a statement in support of more or less everything that they stand for.
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Post by Jim on Apr 2, 2024 7:46:29 GMT
I'm of the opinion that some people expect summat for nowt. Want to change rules to suit their own needs. When I lived in relative poverty as a single parent, or prior to that single, on the dole, enjoying myself playing in a band etc, I loved playing on water, in canoes, I would have loved a narrowboat or cruiser. I couldn't afford one. First boat was cheap as chips, restored and refitted myself, sold for a small profit, bought 2nd cruiser, again refitted it myself, just about washed it's face when I sold it and got the narrowboat, again a floating wreck, restored and refitted mostly with found timber, bargain eBay windows etc etc. I worked my way up with my skills. I was in a low paid charity job for years , enjoyable and rewarding but no pension. Same with properties to get a pension, hard work and good business sense (thanks to the management!). Even so we are cumulatively well below the average wage. So I feel competent and entitled to call out those who want summat for nowt, handed them on a plate. We all need to make a more equal contribution to CRT, the cc surcharge evens up the playing field. Just heard about the increase in living vans in Bristol, up to 800! Great, carry on, but try not paying your dues or parking inappropriately (because it's near.the kids school), DVLA and local authority will rapidly move on you. CRT is seen as an easy option, slow to act, relatively low costs (even after the surcharge). So people take the piss. I hear the Conservative party are short of members these days. I'm sure they'd be delighted to hear from you, given that you've written a statement in support of more or less everything that they stand for. Yes, of course, , Keep people in poverty, esp single parents, ensure anyone working for a charity gets paid a pittance with no pension, suck any money out of the north so there is a need for charities to do what the government should do, by increasing taxes and sharing out the wealth. I can see why the tories are short of members btw, what intelligent person would join that shit show of the uncaring, liars and failed financial experts.
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Post by dogless on Apr 2, 2024 7:48:58 GMT
Every generation blames the one before, but then strives to do better on a personal level.
That's not politics, that's just life.
Rog
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Post by Clinton Cool on Apr 2, 2024 7:51:23 GMT
I hear the Conservative party are short of members these days. I'm sure they'd be delighted to hear from you, given that you've written a statement in support of more or less everything that they stand for. Yes, of course, , Keep people in poverty, esp single parents, ensure anyone working for a charity gets paid a pittance with no pension, suck any money out of the north so there is a need for charities to do what the government should do, by increasing taxes and sharing out the wealth. I can see why the tories are short of members btw, what intelligent person would join that shit show of the uncaring, liars and failed financial experts. Or, as in your original statement: Get what you work for, which is what you deserve, and only buy what this enables you to afford.
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Post by Jim on Apr 2, 2024 10:31:54 GMT
Yes, of course, , Keep people in poverty, esp single parents, ensure anyone working for a charity gets paid a pittance with no pension, suck any money out of the north so there is a need for charities to do what the government should do, by increasing taxes and sharing out the wealth. I can see why the tories are short of members btw, what intelligent person would join that shit show of the uncaring, liars and failed financial experts. Or, as in your original statement: Get what you work for, which is what you deserve, and only buy what this enables you to afford. That's hardly the tory ethos, get as much as you can with as little effort on your part as possible, get the unfortunate to do the work for as little as possible while contributing as little as possible to society. .
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